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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    BTW, in the latest "Road Ahead" by the NRMA They advise that they have commissioned 2 rescue vehicles with generators to charge out of range EVs enough to get to the next charger.

    One will be in Wollongong and I cannot remember the other but have a feeling Goulbourne.

    I threw it away in disbelief when they tested an EV towing a box trailer and stated that it only lost 25% range and opined that yes that an EV can tow but maybe not a caravan because of the air resistance.
    haven't they read any USA or UK tests where they lose over 50% of range towing anything larger than abox trailer? Hoovie lost over 50% towing a car trailer with a Ford Lightning.
    My D2 loses about 30% towing my Coromal 505 offroad van from about 10.5 to 13.5 L per 100Km.
    I hope no dewy eyed City-zen goes out and buys one for their occasional caravan towing. Law Suits all around.
    Regards PhilipA
    Can't find it ATM but there's a pic going around of a Musk special on the side of the road with the portable genset from his caravan charging it up. Irony, much? Saving the planet? Still, I'll bet it can accelerate faster than my OKA, so that's ok then.
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    this is a bit of a ouch?

    Who'''s next? Chinese EVs drive Stellantis''' Jeep off the road | Reuters

    Most cars we know have been flat footed plus it seems. Noted Landrover- Jag brakes on for everything due to computer chips!

    world is changing quickly in some places. Surprised to see BMW in front of VW.


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    Do not threaten or abuse us???? Notice of Intention to Suspend Vehicle Registration #

    Got a email today. Bright red warning my car will be de registered! Seemed a bit threatening to me so I called Vic roads to cheack if the due date for paying was still 2/1/2023?

    It is the due date. My thoughts or feed back that the threat from them is very inappropriate was agreed with by Jeff from Vicraods. Jeff did not have any process to receive or escalate the feedback/complaint. He suggested I can write to them

    I may have some fun escalating this to stop the ministry of silly walks winning

    Edit- Mia Culpa- it is due now- Date on another vicroads document said "Your invoice must be paid by 28/11/2022 to avoid penalties."
    the 2/1/2023 is the delayed warning date!




    Notice of Intention to Suspend Vehicle Registration EV#####
    Dear James ######,

    This is your final opportunity to pay your road-user charge for vehicle EV###### to avoid suspension.

    As the operator of a zero or low emission vehicle (ZLEV), you are subject to the new distance-based road-user charge. You need to pay your road-user charge.
    What do you need to do?
    You need to pay your road-user charge by 02 January 2023.

    If you fail to comply, your vehicle’s registration will be suspended on 03 January 2023.

    You can make your payment by:

    · signing up for a myVicRoads account and submitting online, or
    · visiting a (COVIDSafe) VicRoads Customer Service Centre with your odometer photo.
    Your right to lodge an objection to this decision
    If you are dissatisfied with the decision to suspend the registration of your vehicle because the Secretary considers that you have paid your road-user charge within the required time you may lodge an objection.

    The objection must be made to the Secretary to the Department of Transport in writing and must state fully and in detail the grounds for objection. Objections can be sent to internalreview@roads.vic.gov.au.

    You have 28 days from the date of this notice in which to lodge an objection. Lodging an objection does not automatically pause the suspension. As the objector you bear the onus of proving your case. In deciding your objection, the Secretary may seek additional information from you.
    What to do if the suspension takes effect
    If the suspension takes effect, you may avoid the cancellation of the registration and have the suspension lifted by paying the road-user charge before 25 January 2023.

    If you fail to take any action, the registration of the vehicle may be cancelled.
    Relevant legislation
    Part 3 – Suspension and cancellation of registration, and Part 4 – Objections and reviews, of the Zero and Low Emission Vehicle Distance-based Charge Act 2021.

    For more information on the ZLEV road-user charge or Customer Service Centre locations, visit www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/road-user-charge.

    Please disregard this reminder if you have paid your road-user charge in the last 7 days.

    Yours sincerely

    Director - Customer Service Delivery
    Delegate of the Secretary to the Department of Transport
    Get in touch
    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/james/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.png[/IMG] dtf.vic.gov.au
    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/james/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.png[/IMG] vicroads.vic.gov.au
    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/james/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.png[/IMG] 13 11 71

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I'm not sure who is really going to cash in on the most on the EV surge.

    the average mugwump is being led to believe that if everybody drives EV's then some sort of green salvation will happen to the planet.

    that is just sheer and pure bull**** perpetrated by the contributors to EV production.

    remember from basic school science....energy is neither created nor destroyed.....the ICE car makes it's energy under its bonnet and dumps out it's exhaust....the EV makes it's energy from factories and electricity generating sources and still dumps it's waste from chimneys into the atmosphere.

    the manufacturing footprint is massive and really no greener , just shifted sideways , to be seen from a different view.
    As my old boss used to say, there is always a cost to somebody "You can't get summat for nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Got a email today. Bright red warning my car will be de registered! Seemed a bit threatening to me so I called Vic roads to cheack if the due date for paying was still 2/1/2023?

    It is the due date. My thoughts or feed back that the threat from them is very inappropriate was agreed with by Jeff from Vicraods. Jeff did not have any process to receive or escalate the feedback/complaint. He suggested I can write to them

    I may have some fun escalating this to stop the ministry of silly walks winning

    Edit- Mia Culpa- it is due now- Date on another vicroads document said "Your invoice must be paid by 28/11/2022 to avoid penalties."
    the 2/1/2023 is the delayed warning date!




    Notice of Intention to Suspend Vehicle Registration EV#####
    Dear James ######,

    This is your final opportunity to pay your road-user charge for vehicle EV###### to avoid suspension.

    As the operator of a zero or low emission vehicle (ZLEV), you are subject to the new distance-based road-user charge. You need to pay your road-user charge.
    What do you need to do?
    You need to pay your road-user charge by 02 January 2023.

    If you fail to comply, your vehicle’s registration will be suspended on 03 January 2023.

    You can make your payment by:

    · signing up for a myVicRoads account and submitting online, or
    · visiting a (COVIDSafe) VicRoads Customer Service Centre with your odometer photo.
    Your right to lodge an objection to this decision
    If you are dissatisfied with the decision to suspend the registration of your vehicle because the Secretary considers that you have paid your road-user charge within the required time you may lodge an objection.

    The objection must be made to the Secretary to the Department of Transport in writing and must state fully and in detail the grounds for objection. Objections can be sent to internalreview@roads.vic.gov.au.

    You have 28 days from the date of this notice in which to lodge an objection. Lodging an objection does not automatically pause the suspension. As the objector you bear the onus of proving your case. In deciding your objection, the Secretary may seek additional information from you.
    What to do if the suspension takes effect
    If the suspension takes effect, you may avoid the cancellation of the registration and have the suspension lifted by paying the road-user charge before 25 January 2023.

    If you fail to take any action, the registration of the vehicle may be cancelled.
    Relevant legislation
    Part 3 – Suspension and cancellation of registration, and Part 4 – Objections and reviews, of the Zero and Low Emission Vehicle Distance-based Charge Act 2021.

    For more information on the ZLEV road-user charge or Customer Service Centre locations, visit www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/road-user-charge.

    Please disregard this reminder if you have paid your road-user charge in the last 7 days.

    Yours sincerely

    Director - Customer Service Delivery
    Delegate of the Secretary to the Department of Transport
    Get in touch
    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/james/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.png[/IMG] dtf.vic.gov.au
    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/james/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.png[/IMG] vicroads.vic.gov.au
    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/james/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.png[/IMG] 13 11 71
    How dare they threaten folk? They must have excellent hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    They must have excellent hearing.
    I've been in James' EV. Bloody hell, you'd think they'd fit quieter tyres... Or driver, for that matter


    Funny how us ICE driving plebs don't receive such high minded threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    I've been in James' EV. Bloody hell, you'd think they'd fit quieter tyres... Or driver, for that matter


    Funny how us ICE driving plebs don't receive such high minded threats.

    That'd be the Driver then, he insists on singing those olde Sea Shanties from his days of yore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    That'd be the Driver then, he insists on singing those olde Sea Shanties from his days of yore.
    I can't see James as a Yo Ho Ho sort of guy... Besides, given what he did in his days of yore he'd have to bubble, rather than sing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    I can't see James as a Yo Ho Ho sort of guy... Besides, given what he did in his days of yore he'd have to bubble, rather than sing.
    It all helps especially when the Rum issue is all gone. I know I know, the RN dropped this some years ago & it was probably not a thing in the RAN when said Matelot was bubbling & gurgling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    It all helps especially when the Rum issue is all gone. I know I know, the RN dropped this some years ago & it was probably not a thing in the RAN when said Matelot was bubbling & gurgling.
    Did the RAN do a rum issue? I know the RN used to, but I fort our lot were stuck with warm beer.
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