Thread: EV general discussion

Here is another video from Hoovie on his experience with a Ford F150Lightning.
Range almost halved at 32F.

WINTER battery performance on my Ford Lightning EV Pickup is another DISASTER. Range cut IN HALF??? - YouTube
Regards PhilipA
I can just imagine the trendy skiers at Thredbo trying to get back to Canberra for a charge in their EV.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

I can just imagine the trendy skiers at Thredbo trying to get back to Canberra for a charge in their EV.

Thredbo? Canberra? Love to see how they'd get on from Hotham....

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Here is another video from Hoovie on his experience with a Ford F150Lightning.
Range almost halved at 32F.

WINTER battery performance on my Ford Lightning EV Pickup is another DISASTER. Range cut IN HALF??? - YouTube
Regards PhilipA
I can just imagine the trendy skiers at Thredbo trying to get back to Canberra for a charge in their EV.

Fully agree with the shocking results IF i leave AC on in my silly MG trying to do longer MELB- Port Fairy with few charge options!

Current lithium battery tech and my one is a good 20% range hit or a bit more! I have to turn AC on for defrosting windscreen at times and always turn it off again ASAP.

Range hit in our ICE exists in cold, speed and towing yet not really a problem with 800km starting range for my D3 at least You just pay for the extra fuel we use.

Thredbo to Canberra would challenge my short assed car if I put AC on 213km is my 0% mark at normal highway speeds. Some fanatics on youtube (who may be salesmen?) with EV MG's suggest they can do 300km plus- I believe them IF they moved at 60kph or slower and did not use AC or start/stop a lot

I have not seen a Significant range change with sub 10degree trips over winter. Noting I a very close to the range edge in summer or winter in the 30,000km Chemo Express car

The roll out of high speed charge places is good yet I assume they will be overwhelmed given the increased number of EVs appearing Saw a polestar for the first time on a road this morning.

The 100% hydrogen issue you mentioned in a prior post was applicable to rather old tech fuel cells. The differences between to 10 year old fuel cell buses and the new FCEV in the US- California example was significant. Some 2010 FCEV buses from Canada did stop with older technology and very high hydrogen prices


Hydrogen prices Optimistic? "As electric and gas utilities contemplate investing in low-carbon hydrogen and the technology to produce it, the high price of today's supplies and equipment — and the potential for cost declines — are major considerations.
At the CERAWeek by IHS Markit conference, hydrogen experts and stakeholders expressed confidence that the cost curve will indeed bend in the coming years. The March 2 panel on low-carbon hydrogen production and technologies offered a detailed breakdown of the forces behind the price trend. Norwegian electrolyzer-maker Nel ASA in January announced a goal of producing green hydrogen at $1.50 per kilogram by 2025. Malaysian oil and gas giant Petroliam Nasional Bhd., or Petronas, is targeting hydrogen production costs from the nation's hydropower and solar resources in a range of $1/kg to $2/kg, Petronas Technology Ventures CEO Mahpuzah Abai said during the panel.
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Still suspect A Nifty WA company will be the best Hydrogen option as power prices are proving highly variable. The Victorian Bass straight GAS fields are a very good example as is a WA coal mine and Gas and electricity high prices which are already up 15-20% here and that's not about to stop!

Proof is needed of course. Big inefficient yank tanks have never been economical ICE or BEV

Electric trucks could reduce peak hour traffic and climate emissions if they were exempt from curfews, transport experts say

I would say more than a few would appreciate a EV garbage truck at 4am

Illegal apparently Electric trucks could reduce peak hour traffic and climate emissions if they were exempt from curfews, transport experts say - ABC News

Have to chuckle at stupid some times

"Key turning point:" Express freight giant makes biggest order for electric trucks in Australia

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Here is another video from Hoovie on his experience with a Ford F150Lightning.
Range almost halved at 32F.

WINTER battery performance on my Ford Lightning EV Pickup is another DISASTER. Range cut IN HALF??? - YouTube
Regards PhilipA
I can just imagine the trendy skiers at Thredbo trying to get back to Canberra for a charge in their EV.

Originally Posted by Tins

Thredbo? Canberra? Love to see how they'd get on from Hotham....

But isn't that the joy of skiing? Being at the top of the slope and freewheeling down hill?

Originally Posted by Narangga

But isn't that the joy of skiing? Being at the top of the slope and freewheeling down hill?

Everyone has to get to the bottom at some point, wet and freezing.. And overdressed.

Originally Posted by Tins

Everyone has to get to the bottom at some point, wet and freezing.. And overdressed.

Are you meaning driving down John? Skiing down has almost everyone stripping or un zipping at the least. Never ever freezing when actually skiing

The point I assume was EV regenerative braking in EV would add a LOT of charge by the time you got off a mountain the ICE types just pay for brake pad wear and tear One quote I found was "Heading down the mountains from the supercharger at Tenaya Lodge, I was averaging -21WHr/mi over the previous 30 miles."

Up the hill may have been over 21Whr used of course- especially if my AC was on