Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by Narangga

Yes I saw that and thought the same regarding the thin details...

And when they say it enables electric aeroplanes. I'm sure it's a help. Maybe it might allow some very short haul small AC flying.

But it's not going to allow you to jump on a plane and fly any distance commercially.

Noticed cupra pricing and details at
The new CUPRA Born 100% electric car | CUPRA


Put me back on my major grumble of WLPT testing and why is mostly a total crock of you know what
https://www.drive.com.au/news/wltp-w...he-fuss-about/
"At 30 minutes, the new drive cycle is 50 per cent longer than the NEDC, and the 23.35km route is 12.25km longer than before. During a normal test cycle, cars are driven at low (up to 60km/h), medium (up to 80km/h), high (up 100km/h) and very high (beyond 130km/h) speeds.
As a result of the new speed cycles, the overall average speed on the test is 46km/h instead of 34km/h.


Unlike before, mathematical models are used to determine the difference between cars with unique specifications. That means big wheels, spoilers or heavy add-ons like a sunroof will also have an impact on fuel emissions. Maybe that 22-inch rubber and the panoramic sunroof weren't such a good idea after all."

I know my car is 50% ish at 100kph My car has NO modifications at all

The new 450ish replacement one soon Is expected to be 300ish I hope!! My now 3 year old MG is going to a 80th birthday party in Warranbool oddly as the Disco is going for a service after a kindergarten trip to Sydney and back only for several younger types loaded
Might be the last time the EV trip adds an hour at RACV Torquay and the OMG avoidance at Colac or Warrnambool snail pace 7kWh charge options for this back duck.

Melb to Port fairy is 284km ish Not certain why Western Districts of Vic is still very light on fast charging (Excluding Tesla only)

Plans to add charging options are as always planning
PS Mg is for sale IF disco is not sold. Tricky bit is it might be

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Noticed cupra pricing and details at
The new CUPRA Born 100% electric car | CUPRA


Put me back on my major grumble of WLPT testing and why is mostly a total crock of you know what
https://www.drive.com.au/news/wltp-w...he-fuss-about/
"At 30 minutes, the new drive cycle is 50 per cent longer than the NEDC, and the 23.35km route is 12.25km longer than before. During a normal test cycle, cars are driven at low (up to 60km/h), medium (up to 80km/h), high (up 100km/h) and very high (beyond 130km/h) speeds.
As a result of the new speed cycles, the overall average speed on the test is 46km/h instead of 34km/h.


Unlike before, mathematical models are used to determine the difference between cars with unique specifications. That means big wheels, spoilers or heavy add-ons like a sunroof will also have an impact on fuel emissions. Maybe that 22-inch rubber and the panoramic sunroof weren't such a good idea after all."

I know my car is 50% ish at 100kph My car has NO modifications at all

The new 450ish replacement one soon Is expected to be 300ish I hope!! My now 3 year old MG is going to a 80th birthday party in Warranbool oddly as the Disco is going for a service after a kindergarten trip to Sydney and back only for several younger types loaded
Might be the last time the EV trip adds an hour at RACV Torquay and the OMG avoidance at Colac or Warrnambool snail pace 7kWh charge options for this back duck.

Melb to Port fairy is 284km ish Not certain why Western Districts of Vic is still very light on fast charging (Excluding Tesla only)

Plans to add charging options are as always planning
PS Mg is for sale IF disco is not sold. Tricky bit is it might be

We have a prospective Cupra owner in our midst.

I have heard that some EV's do better in the real world than on the test. It would appear to me that if you want a good highway car you really need to be looking at the drag coefficient.

The yanks drive fast - faster than us. Tesla have good aerodynamics.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

We have a prospective Cupra owner in our midst.

I have heard that some EV's do better in the real world than on the test. It would appear to me that if you want a good highway car you really need to be looking at the drag coefficient.

The yanks drive fast - faster than us. Tesla have good aerodynamics.

I posted a real test a while ago in this thread. Of those cars just Two did the range promised. Very happy to note a new test on 21 EVs with Much better results for 18 of them.

That fact really put others to shame claiming clearly not real world ranges

I think most people know things get better from a T model ford to what we have right now.

EVs are about to get the benefit of much better and smaller batteries and I hope fuel cells to really rock the range, towing and 4wd wants some of us have.

"Out of the total 21 vehicles tested, 18 exceeded their WLTP range, according to NAF. The three vehicles that didn’t were the Polestar 2, Citroen e-C4 and the Xpeng G3 that fell short by 3, 5 and 12 km (1.9, 3.1 and 7.4 miles) respectively. But even these three provided impressive results, considering the fact that the WLTP test cycle, while more accurate than NEDC, often provides optimistic results that can’t really be achieved in the real world.The Tesla Model 3 Long Range was the overall winner, according to the source, and it managed a very impressive 654.9 km (406.9 miles). Next was the Ford Mustang Mach-E Long Range RWD 617.9 km (383.9 miles), or just 27 km (16.7 miles) less than the Tesla. The source points out the Model 3 it tested is the updated version with the 614 km WLTP claimed range (up from the pre-refresh model's 580 km).

It is important to note that all these cars were driven well after their predicted range had reached zero. Both the Mach-E and the Model 3 reached the 0 km mark at around 600 km, but they kept driving the vehicles until they stopped, and the Tesla lasted a lot longer."

Massive Range Test Staged In Norway: 21 EVs Driven Until Dead

My thought false advertising will bite companies that fail to repeat this cools test! Even the failures are very very close. Nothing as off target as my own current brand! I note one or two suggested the MG could do more than the 260km range promised her in Australia and a few other places. Suspect a $$$ or two involved?

Looks like Ford are not going to follow the EV sheep anytime soon.

Ford CEO JUST Banned EVs For Life! - YouTube

Originally Posted by scarry

Looks like Ford are not going to follow the EV sheep anytime soon.

Ford CEO JUST Banned EVs For Life! - YouTube

I can't find anything about that anywhere in the "normal" press.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I can't find anything about that anywhere in the "normal" press.

What - you don’t believe everything you read on social media….

The sad thing is all the people who commented on the video that believed it to be true.

Ford are fighting it out with GM to be the no.2 largest manufacturer of EV’s in the US.

Toyota have a lot of catching up to do, and plan to release 30 EV models by 2030.

I expect all, including Tesla, will be challenged by BYD.

I do hope hydrogen also becomes an strong alternative. EV’s for city use, and H2 for transportation and regional use would be a good outcome.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

What - you don’t believe everything you read on social media….

The sad thing is all the people who commented on the video that believed it to be true.

Ford are fighting it out with GM to be the no.2 largest manufacturer of EV’s in the US.

Toyota have a lot of catching up to do, and plan to release 30 EV models by 2030.

I expect all, including Tesla, will be challenged by BYD.

I do hope hydrogen also becomes an strong alternative. EV’s for city use, and H2 for transportation and regional use would be a good outcome.

As for EV global sales,2022,I think you will find the Chinese are next after Tesla,with VW coming along behind them.

Ford and GM are way down the list,but up there in the US.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 5 yrs,particularly with Toyota.