Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

The simplicity of EV’s is a big reliability improvement. Will be interesting to see if in-wheel motors ever become common to eliminate almost all rotating parts.

There are a few people manufacturers talking about it - but I don't think it actually works that well with what we've got at this point. It's shocking for unsprung weight - and fitting an electric motor, brakes, and cooling in there is a bit hard.

Rivian has four independent motors and they use driveshafts.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Just FYI Cadogan has never owned an EV. Hyundai Australia gave him a Kona EV for 6 or 12 months.

Having said that I do like his stuff and don't disagree with his sentiment on the mg. It's the cars Australians should want to buy but I'm unconvinced they will. Looking at the top 20 selling cars in Australia, only a few have any presence under 30k.

Our car has a stated range of 455k. I think real world highway is probably 400 but it would do more around the city. This is ridiculously more than we need. For a second car most people will charge after each days driving. I can drive to the Sunshine coast and back from Brisbane inner north and still have 50%.

A range of 300k would probably also be too much.

IIRC Cadogan did a segment saying we need a really cheap (and some might say nasty) car, which I agree with as most Aussies seem to ignore the mid-range cars and go for either cheap and nasty or big and bold. In Ford and going back a few years for example, lots of Festivas and Falcons around and very few of the Focus or Mondeo models.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

IIRC Cadogan did a segment saying we need a really cheap (and some might say nasty) car, which I agree with as most Aussies seem to ignore the mid-range cars and go for either cheap and nasty or big and bold. In Ford and going back a few years for example, lots of Festivas and Commodores around and very few of the Focus or Mondeo models.

Time will tell. I'm not confident they will buy cheap in big numbers. It's not what they have been buying for some time now. Maybe with the economy tightening.

Either way.. for most people 300k of driving is a fair bit. Would be enough for most people in Brisbane to go to either the sunshine or the gold coast and drive around a bit.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Either way.. for most people 300k of driving is a fair bit. Would be enough for most people in Brisbane to go to either the sunshine or the gold coast and drive around a bit.

Range is no longer and issue, after all many ICEs have the same range. The issue is how long its takes to recharge when you are in a hurry.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Range is no longer and issue, after all many ICEs have the same range. The issue is how long its takes to recharge when you are in a hurry.

Exactly no one would even buy an ICE car if they had to fill it via a 2mm fuel line that took ages.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Range is no longer and issue, after all many ICEs have the same range. The issue is how long its takes to recharge when you are in a hurry.

While I agree.. I don't think that's an issue for many.

If you live in a unit and have no home charging, or do journeys further than the range of the car then it definitely could be a consideration.

I think for people that can charge at home the speed of charging will be largely academic. For us we're sneaking up on 2 months of ownership and we haven't had to charge outside the house. If you use the car a lot one day, just whack it on charge when you go to bed and it will be as full as you like in the morning. Super handy.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

If you use the car a lot one day, just whack it on charge when you go to bed and it will be as full as you like in the morning. Super handy.

For sure if you have splurged thousands of $$$ on a high rate home charger but it will take days to charge with the standard home charger EVs come with.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

For sure if you have splurged thousands of $$$ on a high rate home charger but it will take days to charge with the standard home charger EVs come with.

If you can’t afford a 7kW home charger, you probably can’t afford to buy a new car.