Thread: EV general discussion

As I've stated two thirds of Australians live in major capital cities. What if 50% could own one?

The answer to that is: an immediate melt down of the power grid!

Not sure about the eastern states, but here in WA a couple of hot days brings the grid to its knees! Leave out fires, floods and climate change, which is already having an affect!

I am pretty sure there is a use for EV's in certain situations. I think there was a market for that for many decades already, though nobody wanted a lead acid powered vehicle (though I think they could have been a bit more zippy using modern inverter technology). I do agree though that there is "never" (as in not before I am eligible for my pension) going to be enough resources to get 100% electric vehicles on the road usefully. The power grid in my very western, very densely populated and very modern country has never bee so unreliable in my living memory and prices have never been this high (accounting for inflation).

As an aside, I do not get it really. We have all been forced out of the most recyclable light source (incandescent) to bloody LED's which use around a tenth of the power so we should have massive amounts of power surplus but in stead we are all bouncing into the power stations rev-limiters?

As for driving less. The government down here is completely incompetent, as they all are, since during covid it was proven that working from home is feasible at least for a large group of workers. But, covid rules are gone and the traffic jams are through the roof once again. I would think with more people working from home there would be less traffic and indeed, IF Co2 is your greatest concern somehow then make people travel less. Not by limiting their movement but by fining business if they let their workers drive to a location where they do not NEED to be. It seems that many a company just wants everyone back in their fancy office which is on an expensive location where it does not need to be, in the middle of a city where parking is impossible etc etc. I the employee do not have any power over that. I reckon that would do WAY more than just pushing that EV stuff.

-P

China ev power used to recharge existing EV transport was 6 Terawatt hours, Tesla 4 terawatt hours + UK/EU slower and we are tiny still.


About minute 26 for those numbers in link at bottom.

While EV growth will remain subdued until the new solid state batteries arrive next year (Quantumscape roll out may be first in 2025) Panasonic and CAYTL chasing hard. Yesterday I saw "CATL, BYD, others unite in China for solid-state battery breakthrough



IF QS 2025 time frame is correct, I flip my current New little EV for a Beast I can tow my boat with and charge in 5 minutes very soon! That needs 350kWh chargers or better! Around here and at home I can still find 7kWh chargers. They are fine for overnight charging of course. Anyone remember records, tape, CD, Blueray, minidisk, USB music players evolution is happening fast in front of us now!

EV, AI Data Centre's, Electric arc furnace and simply giving many billions of people who have almost no reliable power supplies will more than quadruple current total world power demands. The only way to achieve that is Nuclear Power.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/25x...c1d34d5e0d4571

Originally Posted by prelude

As for driving less. The government down here is completely incompetent, as they all are, since during covid it was proven that working from home is feasible at least for a large group of workers.

-P

Yes... except that for so many people the mental healthy issues caused by social isolation will have ramifications for decades. So, as a solution it is not ideal.

Funny, the pilot strike in Aus in 1989 showed big mobs that interstate conferences could, even in those low tech times, be held by video. Didn't take long for the execs etc to get back on planes afterwards.

In case you missed it ( I did ), Apple has ditched its Project Titan after 10 years. They apparently also ditched their goals to have a 100% EV fleet by 2026.

Originally Posted by Tins

In case you missed it ( I did ), Apple has ditched its Project Titan after 10 years. They apparently also ditched their goals to have a 100% EV fleet by 2026.

Following the recent trends of others.
I wonder if Jag will be EV only by 2025,as per their announcement?
Their sales are pretty dismal anyway,so i can’t see going to only EV would be any benefit at all.

Originally Posted by scarry

Following the recent trends of others.
I wonder if Jag will be EV only by 2025,as per their announcement?
Their sales are pretty dismal anyway,so i can’t see going to only EV would be any benefit at all.

Said it on here a few years back. They're heading into a cul de sac. Crazy burning bridges IMO. All those decades of R&D wasted.

Originally Posted by Tins

In case you missed it ( I did ), Apple has ditched its Project Titan after 10 years. They apparently also ditched their goals to have a 100% EV fleet by 2026.

What's 10 billion between ????? thats roughly what apple put in to the Self Driving fail

Add the 2 billion ish fine the other day by EU over music streaming and a multi day share price hole and its an ouch for your super fund