Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by BradC

I don't in any way disagree with you. The problem is they haven't taken back the power grid in the same way. I know this is what you were getting at, but I wanted to emphasize it. The private sector only takes an interest in "the grid" because it's chronically subsidized. "renewable" power only works when it's "subsidized". Nuclear won't get up because it'd have to be nationalized. In the mean time, it's Coal and Gas (smacks hand, naughty boy). Those that oppose Coal and Gas need to have their power turned off for the half of the year the sun isn't shining and wind isn't blowing.

As for the distribution infrastructure required to get power from these wind and solar "farms" (you know, the "farms" that don't actually produce stuff we need, when we need it but produce ****loads of excess **** we don't need when everyone elses roof is producing too), it costs a **** load, destroys actual farming infrastructure (you know, the stuff that makes the things we eat to survive) and destroys the value of farms (which means farmers no longer want to farm). So at the end of the day it turns valuable farmland into stuff we're going to bulldoze and try to find a place to bury in the next 20 years.

Yay renewables! I'd rather eat pork, lamb, beef and eggs.

And.. because we rely on gas peakers.. and we don't have a gas reservation system.. so the gas we use is really expensive (3 times what it was 10 years ago).. which is not helping the price situation.

Everyone is trying to milk it for whatever they can get. It's a total rabble. Trying to encourage private companies to do what you need with legislation is futile.

Probably they need to either nationalise it somehow get the rabble pulling in the same direction. Either option is really hard.. hence nothing happening.

Personally I don't blame renewables. IMHO this is just the privatisation lifecycle (I'm making this bit up). When they privatise an essential sector it always goes well for a bit. Eventually though it degrades into a mess.

Oh well.

Originally Posted by Saitch

It's all about 'Competition', Ian. 'Competition'!

Remember how the 'Competition between Banks' benefited us all?

Competition works until they get too big to fail.