Thread: Nuclear

Every now and again I wonder how I can miss very big news. Mia Culpa. 2018 Noble prize is huge news.

10,000 years storage for nuclear waste cut to just 30 minutes is an amazing change.

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I am not having a go at wind or solar. The scale needed is massive and growing. All options are needed. Nuclear is one of them.

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Not mine but a OMG when you think about it in terms of what is needed for C02 free!


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Over the last 20 years world governments have spent north of $5 trillion on "green" energy. That has taken fossil fuels share of primary energy from 86% to 84% and world oil consumption increased from 77 million barrels per day to 100 million barrels per day. Do you get it?

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I am not having a go at wind or solar. The scale needed is massive and growing. All options are needed. Nuclear is one of them.

I don't understand the need for nuclear power when we have a ball of nuclear energy in the sky, that generates solar and wind energy that we can use easily and safely to generate power. For a lot of the world it has got to be cheaper and quicker install solar panels and even batteries than build a nuclear power station and transmission lines to rural villages.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I don't understand the need for nuclear power when we have a ball of nuclear energy in the sky, that generates solar and wind energy that we can use easily and safely to generate power. For a lot of the world it has got to be cheaper and quicker install solar panels and even batteries than build a nuclear power station and transmission lines to rural villages.

A little trivia on the sun. Kilogram for kilogram. 1 kg of the sun produces less energy than our compost bins/pile

As much solar as possible is not nearly enough I understand. Power consumed in the "EU in 2020 amounted to 37 086 PJ," (10301667GW)
item 2 "By the end of 2019, a cumulative amount of 629 GW of solar power" entire world

I think you can see the gap? Grow solar by a factor of 16377.85 is not possible and thats just the EU! Add China, USA and India perhaps and that number is more like a few million times to get even close

Add we need much more electricity to replace fossil fuel We need solar but need a lot more than it can provide.

Having lived on solar for 3 years & raised 6 kids , I see the biggest issue being waste .
I look how others use their power & see that most could reduce their power usage by nearly half ,simply by taking sensible notice of their power usage .
Living with a limited resource has made acutely aware of what I do .
I run a business & a workshop & my power usage is around half of that used by friends in a purely domestic situation .
I did not really appreciate how much I wasted , for no gain whatsoever , until I had to supply my own.
It is not always possible , especially in a commercial situation , but if you take a critical look , you will soon see how much waste there is , not just power .

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

A little trivia on the sun. Kilogram for kilogram. 1 kg of the sun produces less energy than our compost bins/pile

As much solar as possible is not nearly enough I understand. Power consumed in the "EU in 2020 amounted to 37 086 PJ," (10301667GW)
item 2 "By the end of 2019, a cumulative amount of 629 GW of solar power" entire world

I think you can see the gap? Grow solar by a factor of 16377.85 is not possible and thats just the EU! Add China, USA and India perhaps and that number is more like a few million times to get even close

Add we need much more electricity to replace fossil fuel We need solar but need a lot more than it can provide.

Wind power produces more power worldwide than solar, I believe, although getting comparable numbers is difficult (e.g. installed capacity vs actual amount produced etc). And there is a problem getting the same dates, with both solar and wind capacity climbing rapidly.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Wind power produces more power worldwide than solar, I believe, although getting comparable numbers is difficult (e.g. installed capacity vs actual amount produced etc). And there is a problem getting the same dates, with both solar and wind capacity climbing rapidly.

I Love wind John

More the better sir

Scale up is a little above my ability to calculate. I do know wind is often the most cost effective option if put in the right spot. I did hear every bit we can produce in optimal spots in a very cool Western state have been flagged for use I also hear those billion $$$ projects cover just a fraction of the need they are going to cover. I think I added a link to that huge WA project in the Hydrogen Thread? Just in case a link again

Nuclear is really the only other Carbon free option to fill the HUGE gap unless Fusion greats unlimited free power. I am often wrong of course.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Wind power produces more power worldwide than solar, I believe, although getting comparable numbers is difficult (e.g. installed capacity vs actual amount produced etc). And there is a problem getting the same dates, with both solar and wind capacity climbing rapidly.

IIRC the rule of thumb is a factor of three, installed capacity versus power produced as the wind doesn't blow all the time.