Thread: Sydney-Melbourne in an EV is possible.

Originally Posted by Phil B

The way I see it is that this is exactly the issue many will face before EV can become a reality. If you can’t charge them at home from your house supply while you sleep (8 hrs?) what do you do?
I’d love to do a conversion but it’s just not viable until we work out how to significantly increase the range and sort out home charging.
I do about 350km for work on most days which I can’t do with current ( no pun intended) technology.

You can charge from any power point, it's just faster with more powerful chargers.

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
Small EVs as a second car could really help congestion if the annual costs of the ICE left at home were reshaped to reflect usage/time/location of road space.
Cheers

Initially hybrids will be the go. They can be bought for $28-32,000 (Prius or Corolla), can run 50 Ks electric, halve motoring costs and no range anxiety.
Hyundai is joining Toyota in a big hybrid push, so acceptance will rise rapidly.
EVs will follow as costs fall.
Governments will discount costs because EVs slash emissions.
Twenty years from now ICE vehicles will be in museums.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Are you putting your power back into the grid? If you put in a battery system to run the house first and only then send the excess to the grid, then I don't see how an energy company could stop you from upgrading your own internal system.

Excess goes back to the grid. However Essential Energy, who owns the poles, transformers and wires have a policy of not allowing overhead wires to be upgraded except by local inspector approval and the local inspector won't go out on a limb to allow it, thereby forcing me to put all power underground at great expense if any change is to be made. Anyway, this isn't a PV problem except that the approval to connect the PV system to the grid was on the basis that the overheads were already 16mm. Maybe one day the bundle will start arcing at which time Essential Energy will have to upgrade the overheads at their expense

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

You can charge from any power point, it's just faster with more powerful chargers.

Quicker,more powerful chargers use a lot of power,so the average domestic property will need a mains upgrade to be able to use them.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Initially hybrids will be the go. They can be bought for $28-32,000 (Prius or Corolla), can run 50 Ks electric, halve motoring costs and no range anxiety.
Hyundai is joining Toyota in a big hybrid push, so acceptance will rise rapidly.
EVs will follow as costs fall.
Governments will discount costs because EVs slash emissions.
Twenty years from now ICE vehicles will be in museums.

Like **** they will be - I’m still planning on driving my old Landies in 20 years. Anyone that tries to stop me will be in a world of hurt - they’ll still be millions of them on the roads, no government would be suicidal enough to ban them outright...

Originally Posted by Eevo

i'll go no on that.
you're penalisng people who cant afford eV

Hi,
Nope!
Well, not necessarily.
It could be structured to be (average) cost neutral.
There are winners and losers in any system, change anything in that system and the matrix will change.
It is up to community leaders to shape the matrix to benefit society/environment/planet as advised by experts in appropriate fields.
e.g. various subsidies such as the £10 Poms and European immigrants when we needed them, vehicle manufacturing when we needed it etc.
We can't keep adding cars to the daily commute, so something is needed to interrupt the present trend to avoid total traffic collapse.
Cheers

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,

It is up to community leaders to shape the matrix to benefit society/environment/planet as advised by experts in appropriate fields.

no no no!

its up to the people to tell their leaders what they want!

otherwise, the system wont work (or people are being oppressed)

Originally Posted by Eevo

no no no!

its up to the people to tell their leaders what they want!

otherwise, the system wont work (or people are being oppressed)

Theoretically a democracy allows for 49.9% of the population to be oppressed