Reply With QuoteAbsolutely - but it should be my choice, not someone else’s....
ForumSage
As long as you can buy / afford petrol.Originally Posted by Homestar
Of course you could DIY make a plant to convert NH3 to H2 and easily run your petrol vehicles on it the tailpipe emissions will be water only !!
This one from the 1970's
Super Moderator & CA manager
SubscriberAbsolutely - but it should be my choice, not someone else’s....
If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.
Sorry, but all our dirty old ICE vehicles will be banned because of their deadly exhausts and you'll have to go to museums and pay to don masks to see them started, while giggling children titter about our ankles muttering about the quaint old farts and their smelly heaps.
Swaggie
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govt wont ban them. they get way too money from fuel taxes.
Current Cars:
2013 E3 Maloo, 350kw
2008 RRS, TDV8
1995 VS Clubsport
Previous Cars:
2008 ML63, V8
2002 VY SS Ute, 300kw
2002 Disco 2, LS1 conversion
They won't be able to be sold new unless they comply with the latest emissions standards and can run on the latest fuels.
It's inevitable that emissions testing will become of renewing registrations.
Urban areas will van vehicles with dirty exhausts, as already happens in some cities, including London.
Thousands of people are dying every year from emissions. The cost of treating sick people is becoming unsustainable. Prevention is more efficient than treating people after they get sick. Even governments which ignore environtal damage will have to respond to the dollar cost.
Swaggie
Subscriberwont happen here in the next 30 years.
Current Cars:
2013 E3 Maloo, 350kw
2008 RRS, TDV8
1995 VS Clubsport
Previous Cars:
2008 ML63, V8
2002 VY SS Ute, 300kw
2002 Disco 2, LS1 conversion
Fossicker
The only problem with that is EVs won't slash emissions, they will actually rise. New ICEs are really low on emissions as it is. EVs need to get elctricity from somewhere and that is the national grid which derives it's power from the burning of fossil fuels. EV adoption is going to increase the amount of burnt fossil fuels which in turn will increase emissions and atmospheric pollution.
The only time EVs can become viable is if we move to nuclear energy and that isn't happening in Australia any time soon.
EVs are a con.
Wizard
SubscriberWow... here we go, watching the sparks fly with interest!
Phil B
Custodian of:
1974 S3 swb wagon (sold)
1978 S3 swb canvas
48 749 '88 4x4 Perentie
1985 County with 4BD1T
No, that's not correct.
As fossil fuel production declines when worn-out coal power stations are closed, that will change.
Plus most EVs will be charged off solar home systems, so no draw from the grid anyway.
Fossicker
Well that isn't going to be happening any time soon. There are currently 1600 coal-fired power plants being built in 62 countries. China's building about 100 on their own. That means there will be a hell of a lot of demand for fossil fuels well into the future.
Solar and wind can't even deliver baseload power (at the moment) and is notoriously unreliable.
As for solar home systems. That's great if you own your own stand-alone house or new-build. But, with the push for medium-density housing and inner-city living, for renters or people that live in apartments, there won't be enough roof space for solar panels. Which is ironic considering the best use-case for EVs is for inner city dwellers to hum (literally) around town.
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