Sydney-Melbourne in an EV is possible.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Like **** they will be - I’m still planning on driving my old Landies in 20 years. Anyone that tries to stop me will be in a world of hurt - they’ll still be millions of them on the roads, no government would be suicidal enough to ban them outright...

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As long as you can buy / afford petrol.

Of course you could DIY make a plant to convert NH3 to H2 and easily run your petrol vehicles on it the tailpipe emissions will be water only !!

https://youtu.be/_H4XZ_m7P0E


This one from the 1970's
https://youtu.be/L0hBAz6MxC4

Absolutely - but it should be my choice, not someone else’s....

Sorry, but all our dirty old ICE vehicles will be banned because of their deadly exhausts and you'll have to go to museums and pay to don masks to see them started, while giggling children titter about our ankles muttering about the quaint old farts and their smelly heaps.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Sorry, but all our dirty old ICE vehicles will be banned because of their deadly exhausts and you'll have to go to museums and pay to don masks to see them started, while giggling children titter about our ankles muttering about the quaint old farts and their smelly heaps.

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govt wont ban them. they get way too money from fuel taxes.

They won't be able to be sold new unless they comply with the latest emissions standards and can run on the latest fuels.
It's inevitable that emissions testing will become of renewing registrations.
Urban areas will van vehicles with dirty exhausts, as already happens in some cities, including London.
Thousands of people are dying every year from emissions. The cost of treating sick people is becoming unsustainable. Prevention is more efficient than treating people after they get sick. Even governments which ignore environtal damage will have to respond to the dollar cost.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

They won't be able to be sold new unless they comply with the latest emissions standards and can run on the latest fuels.
It's inevitable that emissions testing will become of renewing registrations.

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wont happen here in the next 30 years.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Governments will discount costs because EVs slash emissions.

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The only problem with that is EVs won't slash emissions, they will actually rise. New ICEs are really low on emissions as it is. EVs need to get elctricity from somewhere and that is the national grid which derives it's power from the burning of fossil fuels. EV adoption is going to increase the amount of burnt fossil fuels which in turn will increase emissions and atmospheric pollution.

The only time EVs can become viable is if we move to nuclear energy and that isn't happening in Australia any time soon.

EVs are a con.

Wow... here we go, watching the sparks fly with interest!

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Originally Posted by Loderunner

The only problem with that is EVs won't slash emissions, they will actually rise. New ICEs are really low on emissions as it is. EVs need to get elctricity from somewhere and that is the national grid which derives it's power from the burning of fossil fuels. EV adoption is going to increase the amount of burnt fossil fuels which in turn will increase emissions and atmospheric pollution.

The only time EVs can become viable is if we move to nuclear energy and that isn't happening in Australia any time soon.

EVs are a con.

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No, that's not correct.
As fossil fuel production declines when worn-out coal power stations are closed, that will change.
Plus most EVs will be charged off solar home systems, so no draw from the grid anyway.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

No, that's not correct.
As fossil fuel production declines when worn-out coal power stations are closed, that will change.
Plus most EVs will be charged off solar home systems, so no draw from the grid anyway.

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Well that isn't going to be happening any time soon. There are currently 1600 coal-fired power plants being built in 62 countries. China's building about 100 on their own. That means there will be a hell of a lot of demand for fossil fuels well into the future.

Solar and wind can't even deliver baseload power (at the moment) and is notoriously unreliable.

As for solar home systems. That's great if you own your own stand-alone house or new-build. But, with the push for medium-density housing and inner-city living, for renters or people that live in apartments, there won't be enough roof space for solar panels. Which is ironic considering the best use-case for EVs is for inner city dwellers to hum (literally) around town.