Sydney-Melbourne in an EV is possible.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

No, that's not correct.
As fossil fuel production declines when worn-out coal power stations are closed, that will change.
Plus most EVs will be charged off solar home systems, so no draw from the grid anyway.

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when wind n solar farms run out, what do they get replaced with?
remember that both have a shorter lifespan than fossil fuel stations.

also home solar only has a 30% penetration rate in aust homes. some quick maths tells me that means 70% of houses will need to draw from the grid

Melbourne is south of Sinney, right, so it'd be all down hill, so should be a piece of cake, however Mel -Sinney would be a challenge all being up hill.[biggrin]



Would the ex Member for 'Buggered up Broadband' even know?[smilebigeye]

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Originally Posted by Eevo

when wind n solar farms run out, what do they get replaced with?
remember that both have a shorter lifespan than fossil fuel stations.

also home solar only has a 30% penetration rate in aust homes. some quick maths tells me that means 70% of houses will need to draw from the grid

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Gas and batteries, normally.

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Originally Posted by Loderunner

Well that isn't going to be happening any time soon. There are currently 1600 coal-fired power plants being built in 62 countries. China's building about 100 on their own. That means there will be a hell of a lot of demand for fossil fuels well into the future.

Solar and wind can't even deliver baseload power (at the moment) and is notoriously unreliable.

As for solar home systems. That's great if you own your own stand-alone house or new-build. But, with the push for medium-density housing and inner-city living, for renters or people that live in apartments, there won't be enough roof space for solar panels. Which is ironic considering the best use-case for EVs is for inner city dwellers to hum (literally) around town.

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There's no technical reason why the roofs of townhouses and apartments can't be covered in solar panels. Buyers can do it, or body corporates can combine, or even developers using lower power bills as a selling point.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

There's no technical reason why the roofs of townhouses and apartments can't be covered in solar panels. Buyers can do it, or body corporates can combine, or even developers using lower power bills as a selling point.

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Except there wouldn't be enough space to put enough solar panels to supply say a multi-storey apartment tower. You could probably get away with a duplex town-house roof but anything with more residences and solar would struggle to generate enough supply.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

when wind n solar farms run out, what do they get replaced with?
remember that both have a shorter lifespan than fossil fuel stations.

also home solar only has a 30% penetration rate in aust homes. some quick maths tells me that means 70% of houses will need to draw from the grid

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And out of that 30%,I wonder how many have the capacity to charge one or two EV’s every night?

And run the house?

Very few no doubt.

We are many,many years away from relying on solar power to reliably supply power even for domestic use,let alone charge vehicles as well as industrial use.

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Originally Posted by scarry

And out of that 30%,I wonder how many have the capacity to charge one or two EV’s every night?

And run the house?

Very few no doubt.

We are many,many years away from relying on solar power to reliably supply power even for domestic use,let alone charge vehicles as well as industrial use.

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well given the sun doesnt shine at night, and battery penetration is super low. i would say zip.

EVs can be charged from any power point, but higher capacity chargers costing about $2000 make it happen faster.
The EV batteries can be wired to become part of the house power system. Batteries are charged during the day and run the house at night. About 6-7 kW of solar panels and a similar battery capacity is all a typical house needs.
A lot of solar can be packed onto project roofs. Our son's new 6.5 kW of solar panels which are wired to run his newly renovated house first and export the surplus to the grid are already earning him $5 a day in power credits, so as long as they use less than $5 a day in power, they are in credit. And his panels don't take up a lot of space - they would fit on a townhouse roof.
If not enough on- site power is generated, apartment projects can actually sign deals with solar and wind generation companies to buy their power from a remote farm. Some businesses already do this.
Why don't you stop raising false objections and just realise this is the way we're going and it's not a future thing, it's already here?

most people set an alarm clock and wake up in the morning.
mick on the other hand is still in dream land.

So to do this the average human family has to:
Pay for solar panels and batteries +-$7k (yes I know the power bill would then be smaller but we also have to pay for maintenance and power on rainy days etc)
Pay for a fast charger ‘cos the car needs to be charged in 8hrs- $2k
Pay for the EV - cheapest is currently $40k
Replace EV and house batteries every 6 (?) years say allow $3k per year

Total outlay for somebody with no electrical or mechanical knowledge is about $50k up front, just to do exactly what we are doing now albeit saving the world?.

All of this so that we can travel in a tiny car a max of 400km per day and we can’t go out of the cities because there aren’t any charging stations out there. I’m sure they’ll find a way to make us pay for those as well.

Sounds like a plan, not a very good plan, but a plan.