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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    thats disturbing. cool at the same time. go to the service station and fill up with aluminum instead of petrol.
    Naa, change to new fuel cells, the old ones would be returned and recycled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Naa, change to new fuel cells, the old ones would be returned and recycled.
    your ruining my dream!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    your ruining my dream!
    Sorry! EV 1500km per charge,  Aluminium Air fuel Cell

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Naa, change to new fuel cells, the old ones would be returned and recycled.
    I was having dreams of something akin to the backyard veg oil community .. only less smelly.

    That was; buy up all those unloved unwanted D2's with cracked V8s, and blown heads .. scrap the aluminium in my home made foundry .. purify to nth degree, chuck resultant wads of pure Al into the back of the modded D1, refuel simply chucking sticks of Al into tank.

    This ... "change new fuel cells, return old ones as exchange" .. sound too much like BBQ gas .. no romantic notion of the backyarders paradise in that?

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    I cannot tell you how glad I am that I don't have to think about this crap. I truly hope that I'll be driving an ICE until they take my licence away. What a pathetic future you all seem to be looking forward to. Every one of you, all the same. I'll be glad to be dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    I cannot tell you how glad I am that I don't have to think about this crap. I truly hope that I'll be driving an ICE until they take my licence away.

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    Why hope for that?

    Besides when they eventually take your licence away you might end up in an EV anyway - a mobility scooter!

    Self driving cars will be EV. Hope they get in done in time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    I cannot tell you how glad I am that I don't have to think about this crap. I truly hope that I'll be driving an ICE until they take my licence away. What a pathetic future you all seem to be looking forward to. Every one of you, all the same. I'll be glad to be dead.

    LOL
    Though you pretend to be too pompous to own I'm sure you will experience driving one and will love it.

    Just like people that smoke, know its bad for you and will kill you , and don't care about the way they stink, Happy with the way the world is going and don't care about their own or the planets health.

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    Well, can’t say I didn’t see this coming. In summary, the tech has been around for decades, it’s easy to do and there’s plenty of energy in aluminium, but the energy required to make the cell is vastly more than to charge a lithium ion battery, and there’s some significant issues with the reaction.

    So, to the original points - toxicity of the electrolyte - not an issue and shown it can be done easily, and the cost - not sure how this one is overcome as recycling the spent cell isn’t like recycling aluminium cans - you basically have to start the smelting process again.

    Interestingly what wasn’t covered is how far you’d get on a cell and how much aluminium is required for this and what the cost of that aluminium is, which I’d still like to know.

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    Yeah! .. I like this thunderfoot guy. Haven't subscribed, but have seen many of his vids via other youtube links(mainly bigclive, EEVblog, Elecroboom, etc).

    The big problem with sites like these, is that they don't sensationalise their topics and heading enough. So what happens is that they get a few hundred thousand, or a million, subs and views.
    Yet the shysters and crooks understand marketing and hype better, and therefore and get more views and subs.

    Have a look at any of the free energy youtubers and I'd estimate that they'd have say 5-10million views, yet the sites that point out the silliness of 'free energy' may get a few thousand by comparison.
    It seems that the millennial + generations are more interested in watching pie in the sky, bogus, wish it were true info/educational content .. than coming to grips with the harsh reality.

    When we're all long gone and forgotten, having from traditional educational backgrounds, where we've been properly taught that free energy such as perpetual motion isn't possible, and that fundamental laws are fixed ... future generations educational content will be primarily this bogus internet garbage, probably based on the operations of energy polarisers and other hoodoovoodoo rubbish, and it seems they may ever revert to the flat earth belief.

    Here we are supposed to be worrying about our descendants futures due to the 'onset of a warming globe' ... whereasfuture generations eventual demise will most likely be as a result of their own incompentences.

    As to the highlighted inventor, my initial thoughts were .. yeah, bogus, more likely than reality.. but you never know.
    I dunno the inner workings of battery and chems, but Aluminium recycling is a bit easier than thunderfoot says it is .. much easier than lithium for starter and usually easier/less energy intensive than most other metals too.
    But the reality of the overall logistics of the recycled Al battery energy market is obviously not as easy as some nutty prof in his shed type invention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    ...., but Aluminium recycling is a bit easier than thunderfoot says it is .. much easier than lithium for starter and usually easier/less energy intensive than most other metals too.
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    But in this case, you are not recycling aluminium - you are re-refining aluminium oxide. And that is the most energy intensive metal producing operation that is done on a large scale. Which, of course, is the other side of the coin that gives you a high energy output by oxidising aluminium.

    As the old saw goes "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!" (See my post #10)
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