Thread: World's biggest battery to be built at KURRI KURRI.

Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

Probably only on the weekend on a mild day.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
Regards PhilipA

Indeed. All these portable battery packs being marketed as silent emission free "generators" gets up my nose as well.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
Regards PhilipA

Solar operates during the day.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
Regards PhilipA

Where did anyone say that it was generating electricity?

The role of the batteries isn't to power an entire State, it's to smooth out generation and demand.

FYI, there's some pretty serious people behind that battery - ex-AEMO, ex- Macquarie Bank - and I'd presume that they know what they're doing.

Originally Posted by bob10

The CEP plans follow on from the announcement last October that the company would build a network of industrial-scale rooftop solar and battery storage installations, totalling up to 1,500MW.
These plans have now been expanded to encompass grid-scale batteries, with the 1,200MW Kurri Kurri battery – there is no word yet on the storage duration – to be part of a network of four big grid-scale batteries across the country with a total capacity of 2,000MW.


"World's biggest battery" at Kurri Kurri will deflate Morrison's gas dreams | RenewEconomy

It is already posted here where it should be:

Grid can go 75% renewable

Originally Posted by Old Farang

It is already posted here where it should be:

Grid can go 75% renewable

Thanks for that. No doubt it will be moved. Don't forget to open the link in the previous post.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

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FYI, there's some pretty serious people behind that battery - ex-AEMO, ex- Macquarie Bank - and I'd presume that they know what they're doing.

Yes!
And this is potentially the main problem.

I think it would be appropriate to see full transparency of what investments the 'decision makers' have in their personal portfolios .. and do their decisions affect these investment portfolios in any way.

Maybe I'm just a bit cynical as to why these folks that supposedly know what they're doing, do these things that really don't make any sense.

Lithium battery for main power storage is simply stupid for a sustainable future.

Originally Posted by AK83

Yes!
And this is potentially the main problem.

I think it would be appropriate to see full transparency of what investments the 'decision makers' have in their personal portfolios .. and do their decisions affect these investment portfolios in any way.

Maybe I'm just a bit cynical as to why these folks that supposedly know what they're doing, do these things that really don't make any sense.

Lithium battery for main power storage is simply stupid for a sustainable future.

Fully agree. Self interest funding, political donations or investments in coal, gas, oil or renewables and related industries at a personal or associated level driving decisions with out disclosure a problem everywhere. Energy storage is helpful as long as its not just grandstanding. We HAVE the tallest. Biggest...... is showmanship not smart in many instances.

What I find amazing about storage is how quickly things are changing. Pumped hydro like the Snowy River or Tassie perhaps may have effective R.O.I. to store large scale excess renewable energy for other times. Life span of some/most of the current batteries seems a lot to short to make them a good investment in our energy security I feel. My two flow batteries have been great 90%= of the time. The Ten year life span of most batteries is a cost and factor. Noted big moves in a storage/ UPS option I will share in another thread.

Tassie news was "An innovative financial instrument for the buying and selling of stored renewable energy has had its debut in Australia via a “virtual storage” electricity swap contract between Hydro Tasmania and two buyers – Macquarie Group and Shell-owned ERM Power." it is part of Gove plans, "It has backed the $6 billion-plus Snowy Hydro 2.0 pumped hydro project (the world’s biggest) and Tasmania’s proposed $7 billion “battery of the nation”.It has backed the $6 billion-plus Snowy Hydro 2.0 pumped hydro project (the world’s biggest) and Tasmania’s proposed $7 billion “battery of the nation”.
Not meaning to make this political yet it is. Self interest is a factor for everyone.