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    World's biggest battery to be built at KURRI KURRI.

    The CEP plans follow on from the announcement last October that the company would build a network of industrial-scale rooftop solar and battery storage installations, totalling up to 1,500MW.
    These plans have now been expanded to encompass grid-scale batteries, with the 1,200MW Kurri Kurri battery – there is no word yet on the storage duration – to be part of a network of four big grid-scale batteries across the country with a total capacity of 2,000MW.


    "World's biggest battery" at Kurri Kurri will deflate Morrison's gas dreams | RenewEconomy
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    Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

    Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

    While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.
    Probably only on the weekend on a mild day.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

    While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
    Regards PhilipA
    Indeed. All these portable battery packs being marketed as silent emission free "generators" gets up my nose as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

    Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

    While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
    Regards PhilipA
    Solar operates during the day.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Being 8 times the size of the SA battery it would then power the NSW network for 5-10 minutes.

    Just repeat after me , batteries do not generate electricity , they just store it . It has to be generated somewhere else.

    While a gas power station will GENERATE electricity hour after hour on a cold windless night.
    Regards PhilipA
    Where did anyone say that it was generating electricity?

    The role of the batteries isn't to power an entire State, it's to smooth out generation and demand.

    FYI, there's some pretty serious people behind that battery - ex-AEMO, ex- Macquarie Bank - and I'd presume that they know what they're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    The CEP plans follow on from the announcement last October that the company would build a network of industrial-scale rooftop solar and battery storage installations, totalling up to 1,500MW.
    These plans have now been expanded to encompass grid-scale batteries, with the 1,200MW Kurri Kurri battery – there is no word yet on the storage duration – to be part of a network of four big grid-scale batteries across the country with a total capacity of 2,000MW.


    "World's biggest battery" at Kurri Kurri will deflate Morrison's gas dreams | RenewEconomy
    It is already posted here where it should be:

    Grid can go 75% renewable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Farang View Post
    It is already posted here where it should be:

    Grid can go 75% renewable
    Thanks for that. No doubt it will be moved. Don't forget to open the link in the previous post.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    ....

    FYI, there's some pretty serious people behind that battery - ex-AEMO, ex- Macquarie Bank - and I'd presume that they know what they're doing.
    Yes!
    And this is potentially the main problem.

    I think it would be appropriate to see full transparency of what investments the 'decision makers' have in their personal portfolios .. and do their decisions affect these investment portfolios in any way.

    Maybe I'm just a bit cynical as to why these folks that supposedly know what they're doing, do these things that really don't make any sense.

    Lithium battery for main power storage is simply stupid for a sustainable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Yes!
    And this is potentially the main problem.

    I think it would be appropriate to see full transparency of what investments the 'decision makers' have in their personal portfolios .. and do their decisions affect these investment portfolios in any way.

    Maybe I'm just a bit cynical as to why these folks that supposedly know what they're doing, do these things that really don't make any sense.

    Lithium battery for main power storage is simply stupid for a sustainable future.
    Fully agree. Self interest funding, political donations or investments in coal, gas, oil or renewables and related industries at a personal or associated level driving decisions with out disclosure a problem everywhere. Energy storage is helpful as long as its not just grandstanding. We HAVE the tallest. Biggest...... is showmanship not smart in many instances.

    What I find amazing about storage is how quickly things are changing. Pumped hydro like the Snowy River or Tassie perhaps may have effective R.O.I. to store large scale excess renewable energy for other times. Life span of some/most of the current batteries seems a lot to short to make them a good investment in our energy security I feel. My two flow batteries have been great 90%= of the time. The Ten year life span of most batteries is a cost and factor. Noted big moves in a storage/ UPS option I will share in another thread.

    Tassie news was "An innovative financial instrument for the buying and selling of stored renewable energy has had its debut in Australia via a “virtual storage” electricity swap contract between Hydro Tasmania and two buyers – Macquarie Group and Shell-owned ERM Power." it is part of Gove plans, "It has backed the $6 billion-plus Snowy Hydro 2.0 pumped hydro project (the world’s biggest) and Tasmania’s proposed $7 billion “battery of the nation”.It has backed the $6 billion-plus Snowy Hydro 2.0 pumped hydro project (the world’s biggest) and Tasmania’s proposed $7 billion “battery of the nation”.
    Not meaning to make this political yet it is. Self interest is a factor for everyone.

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    Now I don't lay claims to being an expert on this, but Renewable energy is happening, and happening now. It is in its infancy, in many respects. But the arguments against sound very similar to the arguments against steam, in the days of sail. And the arguments against the horseless carriage, and heavier than air flight. It is going to happen, you jump on board or get left behind.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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