Thread: 70,000 Orders for Electric F100 in first week.

Originally Posted by Tombie

When would you like it delivered?

Question is, can you supply ~100KVA on a suitably braked trailer with a wet GTM of under 3.2kkg including 12 hours of fuel?

Ok, you’re probably right, 80KVA would do. Does that leave room for a camper?

Who am I kidding, I need solar panels and a wind turbine. Is “green” after all.

Originally Posted by BradC

Question is, can you supply ~100KVA on a suitably braked trailer with a wet GTM of under 3.2kkg including 12 hours of fuel?

Ok, you’re probably right, 80KVA would do. Does that leave room for a camper?

Who am I kidding, I need solar panels and a wind turbine. Is “green” after all.

Yep, we have them. 100KVA prime rated with 300 litres of diesel (around 17 hours @ 100% load) - 2,350kg for a standard silenced unit and 2,950kg for a super silent unit. Both legal and tow well.

Super silent unit shown below on the back on my Hilux. You need a quote?

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Yep, we have them. 100KVA prime rated with 300 litres of diesel (around 17 hours @ 100% load) - 2,350kg for a standard silenced unit and 2,950kg for a super silent unit. Both legal and tow well.

Super silent unit shown below on the back on my Hilux. You need a quote?

Maybe. I'm starting to think there is money to be made as an EV rescue vehicle.

Have a look at Hoovies latest vlog and you will see the complexity of the Lightning as he pulls some of the covers off with the Car Wizard.
2 cooling systems etc.
I don't believe that Ford can successfully make something so complex reliable judging by their recent engineering efforts.

BTW the headline about 70000 orders is not impressive. That equates to say 7000 orders for a new model in Australia. In the halcyon days of Ford Australia we used to exceed that number easily for a new falcon model.

I don't think the number is particularly impressive, what is impressive is doing it in one day. What is less impressive is that their lack of manufacturing capacity for it made them shut the order book after one day.

Originally Posted by BradC

Maybe. I'm starting to think there is money to be made as an EV rescue vehicle.

I've been telling the boss we should sticker one up with some green leaf branding and stick a 100KW fast charger on the drawbar and hire it as a mobile charging station for events, etc...

Just saw this

EVERYTHING CARAVAN & CAMPING

Why would they think it would be any different to that outcome when pulling a 2.7 tonne trailer? The math isn't difficult if you have an understanding of EV's - there's plenty of info out there on this.

If you know 3 of the following you can work the forth out
D - Distance (x100)
B - Usable battery size in KWH
W - Total Weight in tonnes
P - KWH per tonne per 100KM - This is close to 10 for larger vehicles - there's info on line about this - it's fairly constant between 2 and 8 tonnes so I'll use 10 for this equation.

The vehicle is 2,950Kg on its own so lets say 5,800Kg with trailer and driver. With a 98KWH battery pack (that's the usable capacity for this car) I would have worked out its range to be 168KM so 104 Miles minus inefficiencies (ie driver behavior, terrain, etc) - around 10% so 94 miles calculated - not far off what they got.

B=PxWxD so D=B/(PxW) so D=98/(10x5.8) = 1.68x100 = 168KM

Ford claim 230 miles for this vehicle so lets work that out based on the above

D=98/(10x2.95) = 332KM or 206 miles - considering OEM's always claim more than can be obtained in reality, the calculation works.

I get where he's coming from - that's not going to cut it for much, but if you are aware of what you have and can work a calculator, he could have been surprises and ****ed off before the trip, not looking around frantically for a charging station.

If more people understood what they were buying and some of the smoke and mirrors were removed, the whole industry would be a lot better off.