Thread: V8 Discovery on Hydrogen

We over arguing?????

So the results are that he claims it works...
Well if it does.. that is great

How 'bout this...............

Oxyhydrogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hydrogen fuel enhancement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seems you may be right about something but Im still wanting to see proper figures as I still havnt seen a home made system that works.

All the systems I have seen were built by blokes with half baked ideas on less than reasonable vehicals so get back to us with some REAL numbers in the form of a Dyno docket and I will believe you..........as I said in my very first post.

By the way, I have never once said hydrogen fuel enhancement isnt possible or not worth doing just that your on board system wont make enough to make a difference.

I hadnt heard of anyone doing it successfully (and I mean ohnestly really successfully) until I just read that link but I think they would be using quite expensive systems but you may really be onto something and I may have to eat my words.

Both the link I just posted and the Popular Mechanics artical both mention that to make it work you need to adjust fuel mixture that is normally around 14.5 to 14.7:1 up to around 20 to 30:1 and then the HHO injection makes up the difference.

Im still not convinced due to the damage that those lean mixtures would do to your engine other than at Idle which would be your best chance of fuel savings as Vacuum is high and combustion temps are low but if the system fails, your engine would quickly follow.

I personally think the fuel savings are due to the lean mixtures rather than the HHO injection and that any engine with or without HHO Inj would show the same levels and not last very long due to increasing combustion temps at low RPM and having detonation at higher RPM.

This tells me that straight up, your numbers are not correct as you have said you havnt done any mods to your engine other than adding HHO.

Chuck a sniffer up your tail pipe and lean out your mixture to 20:1 and tell us if your engine stays together running HHO from your system.

Now your getting close. Correct about the Popular Mechanics article, it also stated that they were not draining any amp's. no amps no Gas.

We know motors can run on hydrogen
we know that hydrogen makes fuel burn faster and cleaner, we also know that hydrogen is added to today’s petrol and diesel.
We know that adding oxygen will do.

Personally I think that adding the hydrogen dumping the oxygen, retarding the timing should in theory produce some benefits, but then that produces a new set of problems

Originally Posted by mcrover

Both the link I just posted and the Popular Mechanics artical both mention that to make it work you need to adjust fuel mixture that is normally around 14.5 to 14.7:1 up to around 20 to 30:1 and then the HHO injection makes up the difference.

Im still not convinced due to the damage that those lean mixtures would do to your engine other than at Idle which would be your best chance of fuel savings as Vacuum is high and combustion temps are low but if the system fails, your engine would quickly follow.

I personally think the fuel savings are due to the lean mixtures rather than the HHO injection and that any engine with or without HHO Inj would show the same levels and not last very long due to increasing combustion temps at low RPM and having detonation at higher RPM.

This tells me that straight up, your numbers are not correct as you have said you havnt done any mods to your engine other than adding HHO.

Chuck a sniffer up your tail pipe and lean out your mixture to 20:1 and tell us if your engine stays together running HHO from your system.

Here we go again,
alternate energies forum someone comes up with an alternate energy device,they have tried and they reckon it works,
then the resident experts shoot him down in flames,
thats priceless.

so much for onsite goodwill and a sense of fair play. What does it tell the world, its says come on board dare to say something different and you will be treated like a leper!


john

Originally Posted by JohnE

Here we go again,
alternate energies forum someone comes up with an alternate energy device,they have tried and they reckon it works,
then the resident experts shoot him down in flames,
thats priceless.

so much for onsite goodwill and a sense of fair play. What does it tell the world, its says come on board dare to say something different and you will be treated like a leper!


john

Well said JohnE! No more posts on hydrogen on this forum from me.
Cheers
cnorris

Originally Posted by cnorris

Well said JohnE! No more posts on hydrogen on this forum from me.
Cheers
cnorris

Thats a shame.
I am interested to see how it works out for you in the long run.