Need to grow a "man bun" first
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						SubscriberNeed to grow a "man bun" first
A wrangler that can carry more than a purse.
MY08 TDV6 SE D3- permagrin ooh yeah
2004 Jayco Freedom tin tent
1998 Triumph Daytona T595
1974 VW Kombi bus
1958 Holden FC special sedan
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						SupporterThis looks the goods from my perspective as it seems to overcome two of the previous Jeep shortcomings in payload and towing capacity, so if it can provide the two engine options-- I would go for the 3ltr auto diesel, and be happy towing my van etc.
I am sorry to say but as a multi Defender owner I think this keeps alive my idea of a 4wd for touring etc much more than what LR may/may not do with its new Defender--again Jeep have got safety features, performance, choice of auto or manual and we know that there are heaps of add on extras for Jeeps already and something that the new LR's seem to lack for the adventure/working market---character!!!
I wonder what ANCAP rating it will have in respect of it being an option for the mining industry.
Refreshing to see a new Live Axle 4x4 DC Ute to fill the Defender Void . No Doubt Jeep had the vacant market gap in mind.
Jeep are talking a PHEV (Hybrid ) Version , I'll only be interested if theres a 100% Electric model. No more ICE for me.
Perhaps this mob will produce something of interest...
Rivian
Cheers,
Sean
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” - Albert Einstein
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						I'm pretty much 100% certain that nobody at Jeep has ever thought the Defender to be competition to the Wrangler. They make 10 times more Wranglers than Land Rover ever made Defenders. It was not even a flea worth swatting. 90% of Wranglers are sold in the USA, where the Defender has not had a presence and it would not ever be possible for Land Rover to sell a ute.
Was watching a YouTube interview with the Gladiators designer.
Impressive towing capacity @ 3500kg but can only carry a bit over 700kg payload in the tub, so not really comparable to a 130.
Much beefier chassis than the Wrangler and supposedly a redesigned rear suspension.
137" wheelbase may be a little unwieldy, that's 10" longer than a 130 (or BT50 and Ranger) although the short vid I saw it looked like it had a much better steering lock than any Deefer.
Ramp over angle will be an issue, even with the stock 33" tyres but if it is fairly smooth underneath you can skid over stuff as owners of 1980's IH Scouts learnt to do.
Dana 44's front and rear, which is comparable to my original J3000 Gladiator which had a 44 in the front and a 60 out back but it was a 'proper' working truck being comparable to an F250 or Chevy K20
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