D4 Landrover Bull Bar - latest news

[DrOsteo]

Has anyone got a picture of the same dark grey (Corris Grey) with a black bar? Arb or OL.

[DrOsteo]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/79.jpg

[DrOsteo]

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[Babs]

Cheers Dr Osteo.

I like the white but think it might be too much, I'll be blacking out Grille, wheels, Windows, the Black bar might fit in the theme better.

It would be good to hear others opinions.

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[Nicky]

Cheers Dr Osteo.

I like the white but think it might be too much, I'll be blacking out Grille, wheels, Windows, the Black bar might fit in the theme better.

It would be good to hear others opinions.

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The black every time, the bruises don't show

[Babs]

The black every time, the bruises don't show

Very good point :)

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[LandyAndy]

Im Biased.
Go the white.:):):):):):)
Andrew

[Babs]

I don't think the OL bar does it any justice. I think it will look different if we could see the ARB Summit bars black or white.

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[rhinosm]

Here is my quote
$3150 installed, color coded.
see attached.

[Tombie]

Just received an email from local ARB.

"ARB have just released information for the new SUMMIT bullbar for the 2014onwards LR Discovery 4.

These bars are due off production in the next month or so"



Much better cooling in that bar too.. Less load on the system is always a good thing.

[l00kin4]

Here is my quote
$3150 installed, color coded.
see attached.

Thanks for that. The OL quote I got was $2200 fitted - excluding colour coding, lights etc. so that's over a $500 difference for the ARB bar. I've read all the comments re better steel, R&D spend etc. and now better airflow

We haven't seen it (from all angles) yet and it might look a bit better but is it that much better? Interested in people's thoughts...

David

[Nutbag]

New ARB bar - (hope the attachment works).

Where do I sign???

[LandyAndy]

Looks very much like my early D4 OL bar.
Nutbag,what a username,sums up 98% of landy owners:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[Babs]

New ARB bar - (hope the attachment works). Where do I sign???

No attachment???

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[Russrobe]

Jelous as of that new ARB bar. If only it would go on a 2010. Looks thicker and wraps around the lights.

[Tombie]

Looks very much like my early D4 OL bar.



Andrew



Try spec savers mate.

[Tombie]

Thanks for that. The OL quote I got was $2200 fitted - excluding colour coding, lights etc. so that's over a $500 difference for the ARB bar. I've read all the comments re better steel, R&D spend etc. and now better airflow

We haven't seen it (from all angles) yet and it might look a bit better but is it that much better? Interested in people's thoughts...

David



Anything improving air flow improves longevity - and in a IC TD performance/efficiency.

Stronger - so that "hit" may only be superficial rather than worse..

And Aussie made, by Aussie workers - not made OS and sold here..

Would it be $500 better? Easily.

[l00kin4]

Anything improving air flow improves longevity - and in a IC TD performance/efficiency.

Stronger - so that "hit" may only be superficial rather than worse..

And Aussie made, by Aussie workers - not made OS and sold here..

Would it be $500 better? Easily.


Thanks Tombie. All good points. Aussie product seals the deal for me.

Good for me too that the ARB 'model' D4 is grey like mine. Understand more difficult to maintain but I do like the look of the colour coded bar... Hmm

David

[DiscoKris]

I spoke to a ARB rep today and I was quoted just under $3,500 fitted with black colour match and fog lights. The bar on my Amarok was under $2,500 fitted less than 2 years ago. I am sure they will up the price initially to cover some R&D, but $1000 more than the other bar is quite a hike in my book. Maybe I can wait for a sale event [emoji3]

[Nicky]

I spoke to a ARB rep today and I was quoted just under $3,500 fitted with black colour match and fog lights. The bar on my Amarok was under $2,500 fitted less than 2 years ago. I am sure they will up the price initially to cover some R&D, but $1000 more than the other bar is quite a hike in my book. Maybe I can wait for a sale event [emoji3]

Agreed, no sales at this price will dictate the reduction.

[Tombie]

Much more complex to fit up than many other bars.

I can tell you though that the bar itself colour coded is not that bad compared to the bar for the old model..

[DiscoKris]

Much more complex to fit up than many other bars.

I can tell you though that the bar itself colour coded is not that bad compared to the bar for the old model..



He did mention that $489 was for the labour and that's significantly more than other jobs in his experience. He also said that total price includes the loom.

Apparently they are doing a batch run now so now is the time to get in on it.

I have quick question. Do any of you other guys have this sticker on under your hood. Will an ARB bar void my warranty?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/933.jpg

[Tombie]

All LRs have that.. And no it won't - it meets ADRs and LR crash pulse specifications.

[DiscoKris]

Spoke to City Land Rover today and they tell me I should be okay with the bull bar from their prospective for most of warranty claims. However LR will not warrant front sensor or camera issues should they arise. I think I am okay with this.

[Babs]

Any good pics available of this bar yet?

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[Silenceisgolden]

New ARB bar - (hope the attachment works).

Where do I sign???

Can't tell from the picture - do you know if the headlight and indicator globes can be changed without removing the bullbar? This was a problem with the bar fitted to my MY11.

[DiscoKris]

Any good pics available of this bar yet?

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Only what is on the website here: http://www.arb.com.au/land-rover-discovery-4-2009-present/frontal-protection/

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[Tombie]

Can't tell from the picture - do you know if the headlight and indicator globes can be changed without removing the bullbar? This was a problem with the bar fitted to my MY11.



No it's not... Do it from inside the engine bay...

[Silenceisgolden]

No it's not... Do it from inside the engine bay...

You must have very small hands.... I can do the RH headlight, but not the left, and neither of the indicator lights. It is a bit disappointing - a simple change to the bar and it would have been so easy.

[BMKal]

You should be able to pop the headlights out far enough to give you access to the globes. I have an MY12 with ARB bulbar and, while I can't get the headlights completely out, I can pop them forward far enough to get plenty of access behind them.

I've got the left hand one out at the moment to give me access to the mounting bolts for the Traxide controller - I had to remove the Traxide battery and plate this morning to gain access to the bottom of the coolant reservoir bottle where I have a leak at a hose connection.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/886.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5pjlu6tfl/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/887.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/wisrryus7/)

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Once you've removed the grille, it's about a 10 second job to lift the two locking tabs and pop the entire headlight assembly forward onto the bar. ;)

[Russrobe]

Ordered my deluxe bar today. They're all out of stock so awaiting the next shipment to book it in of which is already 60% sold. I'd be getting in early on the new ones.

[Tombie]

You must have very small hands.... I can do the RH headlight, but not the left, and neither of the indicator lights. It is a bit disappointing - a simple change to the bar and it would have been so easy.



Actually quite the opposite..

Un-clip the light, move it forward and reach in from the engine bay...

[Tombie]

For the LHF (drivers) pop the air box. Takes about 2 minutes.

[LandyAndy]

You should be able to pop the headlights out far enough to give you access to the globes. I have an MY12 with ARB bulbar and, while I can't get the headlights completely out, I can pop them forward far enough to get plenty of access behind them.

I've got the left hand one out at the moment to give me access to the mounting bolts for the Traxide controller - I had to remove the Traxide battery and plate this morning to gain access to the bottom of the coolant reservoir bottle where I have a leak at a hose connection.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/886.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5pjlu6tfl/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/887.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/wisrryus7/)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/888.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/aybwcwyk1/)

Once you've removed the grille, it's about a 10 second job to lift the two locking tabs and pop the entire headlight assembly forward onto the bar. ;)

Is that a bit of incontenense happening there Brian???
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Ordered my deluxe bar today. They're all out of stock so awaiting the next shipment to book it in of which is already 60% sold. I'd be getting in early on the new ones.
Finally got them for sale:D:D:D:D:D:D
I had a part number and 1 month delivery time for one from ARB Canningvale when I bought my D4.Its almost 2 years old now.
Andrew

[Russrobe]

Finally got them for sale:D:D:D:D:D:D
I had a part number and 1 month delivery time for one from ARB Canningvale when I bought my D4.Its almost 2 years old now.
Andrew
Did I say the right one? Mine will be the old style Andy, being a 2010. Im tempted to chuck a $400 4wdsupacentre winch in it. Can't bring myself to spend $2500 on a winch i may never use... can get a LR tank with the price diference.

[LandyAndy]

Tombie will pipe up with the winch to buy,MUCH cheaper than that.
They had a stand at the last WA Caravan/Camping show.Nice blokes to chat too and it seems they have a good product.
RUNVA Performance Winches (http://www.runvawinch.com.au/)
Andrew

[BMKal]

Is that a bit of incontenense happening there Brian???
Andrew

Yep - have been dropping a bit of coolant. Found the problem today and will have it fixed when Shaun gets home from Perth with my new reservoir / expansion tank. See the "Hoses" thread. ;)

[Tombie]

Did I say the right one? Mine will be the old style Andy, being a 2010. Im tempted to chuck a $400 4wdsupacentre winch in it. Can't bring myself to spend $2500 on a winch i may never use... can get a LR tank with the price diference.



Spend about $750 and fit a Runva.

Excellent winch and excellent warranty.

[rhinosm]

Question to those already with a bull bar & winch.
ARB specs say it ways approx 77kgs, add a winch, say Runva at 31kgs.
so approx 108kgs.
Do you notice the extra weight up front?
Does the suspension automatically adjust to compensate?
Cheers

[LandyAndy]

It certainly does.
Same as when you put a load in the back or tow a heavy trailer.
OH WHAT A FEELING:):):):):):):) THEY DONT!!!!!
Andrew

[Homestar]

It certainly does.
Same as when you put a load in the back or tow a heavy trailer.
OH WHAT A FEELING:):):):):):):) THEY DONT!!!!!
Andrew

Hey! The suspension in my Hilux DOES adjust automatically when I put a load in it - straight down and stays there... :D

Bloody Toyotas..

[Babs]

Hey! The suspension in my Hilux DOES adjust automatically when I put a load in it - straight down and stays there... :D Bloody Toyotas..

Ha ha ha :)

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[DrOsteo]

So for anyone interested, just got my MY16 D4 TDV6 done at Opposite Lock South Sydney. Almost all he does are LR. We're three others in there. Included a 9500lb VRS winch installed for less than the cost of the ARB bar alone. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/805.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/806.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/807.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/808.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/809.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/810.jpg

[Russrobe]

Weird, quotes I've got are about $300 difference once fitted. Arb are $100 cheaper for colour coding though. So $400 difference without that.

Looks great btw!

[Babs]

So for anyone interested, just got my MY16 D4 TDV6 done at Opposite Lock South Sydney. Almost all he does are LR. We're three others in there. Included a 9500lb VRS winch installed for less than the cost of the ARB bar alone.


Looking good :)

Are they Duratracs on there and also what were the standard tyres it came with ❓

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[DrOsteo]

Yep they are Duratracs. 255/55r19. I had them put them on for delivery. What it came with were very much road only tyres so I got them switched and just paid the difference.

[DrOsteo]

Weird, quotes I've got are about $300 difference once fitted. Arb are $100 cheaper for colour coding though. So $400 difference without that.

Looks great btw!
I was looked after by Gordon price wise. Call him and he will look after you too. The winch is a plasma rope winch and he managed to hide the box just to the left of centre (Can see the remote plug if you look carefully). But all up was still a couple hundred less than the quotes for ARB bar alone that have been floating around on this forum.

[LandyAndy]

The Good Docs Disco looks a million bucks:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Just needs a set of Fyrlyts to set it off.Go for the Nemesis.Mine are the original issue,brilliant lights,great price.Get them thru member R2d2 and the wiring loom from Traxide Tim.
Andrew

[DrOsteo]

The Good Docs Disco looks a million bucks:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Just needs a set of Fyrlyts to set it off.Go for the Nemesis.Mine are the original issue,brilliant lights,great price.Get them thru member R2d2 and the wiring loom from Traxide Tim.
Andrew
I have already purchased some Ultravision Nitro 120W Maxx. Hopefully they are OK. Will be wiring them up this weekend....if not sooner. [emoji41]

[Tombie]

Need that bar levelled up.. It's sitting low on passengers side [emoji6].

[Tombie]

Weird, quotes I've got are about $300 difference once fitted. Arb are $100 cheaper for colour coding though. So $400 difference without that.

Looks great btw!



Not weird at all mate, especially when you consider the quotes are for the New ARB bar.

[Tombie]

Why do people keep buying this LED driving light gear?
So much evidence to prove they're not a good idea for driving lights...
$600+ is Not good value for a LED driving light.

[Babs]

Why do people keep buying this LED driving light gear? So much evidence to prove they're not a good idea for driving lights... $600+ is Not good value for a LED driving light.

Tombie I can only speak for myself, the LED light bar I had was Fantastic, it was like daytime when they were switched on. I personally like the white light.

I looked into those Fyrlyt thingies and just wasn't convinced, it was like watching and reading a reverse psychology Demtel commercial. I personally don't like Halogen, I don't care how bright or far they go, I still prefer a quality white light LED.

If there is something I'm missing please enlighten me (pardon the pun). :)

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[DrOsteo]

Why do people keep buying this LED driving light gear?
So much evidence to prove they're not a good idea for driving lights...
$600+ is Not good value for a LED driving light.
I got them at mates rates but also I prefer the spread. I don't need to see 2km down the road. Is winding where I am so no straight part to have benefit of long distance. I only want to be able to see the road well lit up and the roo that is a couple hundred metres ahead of me off to the side. In saying all that, this is the first time I will have ever bought led spotties, previously have always had light bars and loved them.

[Tombie]

Thanks guys for the responses.

It's the very ability to see Roos that the white light removes..
The very thing you're looking for is assisted in hiding due to CRI.

The science and medical facts about the human eye, fatigue etc are out there.

To be transparent. The 90 has LED headlights, a LED bar and Fyrlyts.

I just spent another 5 hours in the vehicle at night.

Around town the LEDs are great.
Once in a low contrast environment like scrub & highway they're useless.

At that point the CRI makes the colours merge, removing ability to determine Grey Kangaroo on dark background.

[Silenceisgolden]

Thanks guys for the responses.

It's the very ability to see Roos that the white light removes..
The very thing you're looking for is assisted in hiding due to CRI.

The science and medical facts about the human eye, fatigue etc are out there.

To be transparent. The 90 has LED headlights, a LED bar and Fyrlyts.

I just spent another 5 hours in the vehicle at night.

Around town the LEDs are great.
Once in a low contrast environment like scrub & highway they're useless.

At that point the CRI makes the colours merge, removing ability to determine Grey Kangaroo on dark background.

Very interesting Tombie, I have been very disappointed with LED lights but never knew why. I noted that none of them seem to be true spots, and they put such a bright light near-field that they are dazzling, and distant kangaroos are invisible. But knowing now that their CRI is poor explains it much better.
I ended up binning the LED's and replacing the standard H4 lights in my Oka with HID globes, very happy with that.

[Babs]

Thanks guys for the responses. It's the very ability to see Roos that the white light removes.. The very thing you're looking for is assisted in hiding due to CRI. The science and medical facts about the human eye, fatigue etc are out there. To be transparent. The 90 has LED headlights, a LED bar and Fyrlyts. I just spent another 5 hours in the vehicle at night. Around town the LEDs are great. Once in a low contrast environment like scrub & highway they're useless. At that point the CRI makes the colours merge, removing ability to determine Grey Kangaroo on dark background.

Totally agree with you Tombie with regards to determining grey on a dark background.
However it's not that you can't see the Roo on the dark background rather you obviously see it better with the Halogen style.

I have never had a problem spotting Roos & Wombats with the light bar and I too have a winding journey for two hours out of my 3.5-4 hr trip to the farm, so having everything lit up like daytime is somewhat comforting when driving at night.

The last Lightbar I had was rated as - read a newspaper at 800m still 85% light at 500m and anything under that was phenomenal.
I only need to see a couple of hundred of metres in front, pointless trying to see animals on the side of the road beyond 200m I can't see them regardless of what light I'm using, especially when moving at 100klm/ph.

The biggest problem I found with the Lightbar is when you turn them off for a passing vehicle it's like you have no lights at all.

But, in saying all this I haven't tried the likes of Fyrlyt, so maybe if I did I might prefer them over the Lightbar, the problem is I didn't warm to their marketing tactics, so I can't make the plunge to give them a go.

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[weeds]

Babs...you will still experience the same with FYRLYT's.......when you drop them.

I find these days with powerful driving lights we need to drop them earlier when another car is approaching therefore we spend more time with less light.

I had to drive 400km at night for work the other month......I ended up flicking the FYRLYT's Ou off and raving high beam on until the oncoming car got closer than I would drop the high beam......this meant more time with more light. I did forget to drop high beam once

[Babs]

Babs...you will still experience the same with FYRLYT's.......when you drop them. I find these days with powerful driving lights we need to drop them earlier when another car is approaching therefore we spend more time with less light. I had to drive 400km at night for work the other month......I ended up flicking the FYRLYT's Ou off and raving high beam on until the oncoming car got closer than I would drop the high beam......this meant more time with more light. I did forget to drop high beam once

I'll keep that in mind for when I'm on straight roads, thanks for the heads up. :)

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[DrOsteo]

And....Now with lights.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/770.jpg
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[Babs]

And....Now with lights.

Looking good :)

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[DrOsteo]

At the risk of hijacking the thread, just for those who are interested these pics were taken tonight with my phone, the through the front windscreen (too cold). Just finished install and wiring of the Ultravision 120w Nitro Maxx.

Installed a custom isolator switch.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/753.jpg

Normal bi-xenon low beam
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/754.jpg

High beam
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/755.jpg

With spotties on. 1 spread, 1 pencil. 2 very different lights when you block one of them out, even though they are LEDs
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/756.jpg

[Tombie]

Thanks for the pics.

Doesn't seem to be much gain there?

[DrOsteo]

Is hard to photograph. Especially with a phone. They are actually great lights. Better than my previous light bar and not as white as I was expecting. Zoom in on the last image and you'll get a bit of an idea. Will try to find a better bit of road tomorrow night.

[DI5CO]

I was thinking the same, not much difference, but you look at the light poles and the trees on the side and it's nice and bright!!
They really come into effect in more closed in areas.
I remember driving to Coober pedy a few years ago from the north at night and I had my spot lights on. Couldn't see anything as there was nothing for the lights to hit and reflect back. Low or high beams weren't really making much of a difference. I'm sure the lights are great!
Thanks.

[Tombie]

I know that highway very well.. Drove around Coober and region every day/night for a year.

Dark animals on dark backgrounds aren't a good thing!

Cows are not fun either - hit one - thankfully washed almost all the speed off..

[austastar]

Hi,
Don't forget that an automatic camera will compensate for the extra brightness and reduce the exposure.
Cheers

[Stuart02]

Is hard to photograph. Especially with a phone.

You can't on a phone cos it'll compensate. Need to be able to fix all the exposure settings

[DrOsteo]

You can't on a phone cos it'll compensate. Need to be able to fix all the exposure settings
That would explain it.
Extremely happy with the light output but those pics certainly aren't doing them justice. Would recommend. And Australian made, always good.

[rhinosm]

I got a quote from OL this week.
$2750 color coded, no fog lights.
I think I'll go with ARB for the sake of a couple of hundred bucks.
ARB dealer nearby, OL hour away helps in decision making.
Early August I've been told

[rhinosm]

Ive ordered Bull Bar from ARB today.
Color Coded etc.
I'm liking it over OL.
Some nice new features.

[Babs]

Ordered an ARB Summit Bar today, colour coded (Andy's influence).

They're recommending Iron Man Winch, I'm looking at 12,000lb with synthetic rope.

My first choice was Runva 11,000lb

What's your thoughts on the Iron Man Winches Guys, how would they compare to the Runva ❓ they're certainly more expensive.

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[Tombie]

I'd stick with the Runva...

[Babs]

Has anyone actually had the Summit Bar fitted yet ❓

One ARB store says the factory fog lights fit another says you have to buy new fog lights and loom. ❓

What have others organised with their bars ❓

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[rhinosm]

I have ordered mine a few weeks ago.
Due any day.
I have included new fog lights as I was told LR fog lights don't fit.
I'll put up pics once fitted.

[DrOsteo]

The OL bar required new fog lights as well

[Mungus]

I specifically asked that question because the quotation had; the following stated on it.BAR IS SUITED FOR FACTORY FOG LIGHTS AND SENSORS. FRONT CAMERA WILL NOT FIT TO THIS BAR AND IF MADE BAR WILL NOT
BE COVERED BY WARRANTY IF MODIFIED TO SUIT OWN NEEDS.


I was told that they fit 'as mentioned in the quote'; however seeing is believing.

[Babs]

I specifically asked that question because the quotation had; the following stated on it.BAR IS SUITED FOR FACTORY FOG LIGHTS AND SENSORS. FRONT CAMERA WILL NOT FIT TO THIS BAR AND IF MADE BAR WILL NOT BE COVERED BY WARRANTY IF MODIFIED TO SUIT OWN NEEDS. I was told that they fit 'as mentioned in the quote'; however seeing is believing.

Yes Mungus there definitely is some confusion with regards to this.

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[Babs]

We all have orders in but has anyone actually had one fitted yet ❓

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[rhinosm]

I thought the whole purpose for waiting for ARB to design new bar was that it was camera/sensor friendly.
By the look of photo the fog lights look after market.;)

[Stuart02]

I thought the whole purpose for waiting for ARB to design new bar was that it was camera/sensor friendly.
By the look of photo the fog lights look after market.;)

Hard to tell but they do look bigger than standard? What a scam, making OEM redundant for no good reason.

[Hugh Jars]

I've been quoted for #3500590 FFR Fog Light kit, and #3500640 Fog Light Adapter Bullet. Could these be the bits to adapt the factory fog lights to the bar?

[l00kin4]

I've been quoted for #3500590 FFR Fog Light kit, and #3500640 Fog Light Adapter Bullet. Could these be the bits to adapt the factory fog lights to the bar?
I saw that on rhinosm's ARB bar quote too but looking at the ARB site (and others) they are actually fitting ARB fog lights, not the OEM ones. Bullet is just to adapt the connection I think. Strange thing to do...
David

[AnD3rew]

Are those high lift jack points? That's a nice feature if so.

[l00kin4]

Are those high lift jack points? That's a nice feature if so.

Yes, high lift jacking points incorporated below buffers. From ARB site here: ARB 4?4 Accessories | Frontal Protection - ARB 4x4 Accessories (http://www.arb.com.au/land-rover-discovery-4-2009-present/frontal-protection/)

"Twin Hi-Lift jack points located below each buffer for optimum strength"

David

[Mike57]

Hi all.

I have been sitting on this forum for a few years but just subscribed. i got the ARB bar fitted on Wednesday (Late 2014 D4). I was the second fitting at the Kilsyth factory. They only discovered on Tuesday that the LR fog lights would not fit. I got mine for free because of that. Another trap is to make sure you order both cover plates if you are not fitting a winch. I only have the top cover plate.

I have not noticed any change in the handling but then I drive like an old man (maybe because I am!)

[LandyAndy]

Welcome aboard Mike.
Love the bar,the colour matching sets it off.
I have the OL bar,matched in white,wishing I too ordered the winch cover plates,I still havent fitted the winch.
Andrew

[Mike57]

Thanks Andrew, I did see your pics and that definitely sold me on the colour coded bar. I was pondering the OL bar for the last year but decided to wait for ARB. I think both are OK though. Not all that much between them other than the vertical sections. ARB was a few $100 more expensive. Happy with the result though.

[Mike57]

A few more pics

[Mungus]

Well that was quick. I see they have already revised their website omitting suitable for OEM Fog Lights. No doubt they will eat their words and I'll be receiving another quote before fitment in September.

[Babs]

Hi all. I have been sitting on this forum for a few years but just subscribed. i got the ARB bar fitted on Wednesday (Late 2014 D4). I was the second fitting at the Kilsyth factory. They only discovered on Tuesday that the LR fog lights would not fit. I got mine for free because of that. Another trap is to make sure you order both cover plates if you are not fitting a winch. I only have the top cover plate. I have not noticed any change in the handling but then I drive like an old man (maybe because I am!)

Very Big Welcome from me Mike, just the photo I have been looking for, not only the new bar but in white as well. :)

Looks Great :D

Thanks for those photos.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Mike57, I'd love to see some pics of your Frontrunner roof racks fitted and curious about your rear false floor :)

Don't be shy with pics :D

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

What are your thoughts on two toning the Bull Bars ❓

I was thinking the main section bumper replacement in white and the risers and loops in black. Any thoughts on this ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mike57]

My roof rack is 3/4 but I will get some pics over the weekend. I will be fitting the false floor again for a trip to Fraser Island mid September so when I do that I will get a series of photos. For the moment I just have this one from when we were fabricating is to give you an idea.

[Babs]

Very heavy duty Mike, you incorporated existing tie down points to secure to.

I look forward to to the pics :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Well this is the best I can do from an iPhone.

Sorry Mike, your truck is the Guinea Pig.



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[Babs]

Can someone do a better editing job than me ❓
Fat fingers on iPhone is a nightmare :(



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[Grentarc]

Can someone do a better editing job than me ❓
Fat fingers on iPhone is a nightmare :(



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There you go, sorry it is a bit rushed


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/1012.jpg
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[rhinosm]

Nup, doesn't work for me
I'm sticking with all white

[Babs]

There you go, sorry it is a bit rushed

Oooh I really like that, thank you for that Grentarc, appreciated :) Great Job.

That breaks things up nicely having the black contrast.

The black loops might be less glare reflecting back from headlights, maybe Mike could comment on this, do you get any glare from the White loops Mike ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[shanegtr]

Oooh I really like that, thank you for that Grentarc, appreciated :) Great Job.

That breaks things up nicely having the black contrast.

The black loops might be less glare reflecting back from headlights, maybe Mike could comment on this, do you get any glare from the White loops Mike ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum RunnerI cant see my ARB bar on my D3 from the drivers seat so I cant see you suffering from any glare reflecting off a white bar

[Tombie]

I cant see my ARB bar on my D3 from the drivers seat so I cant see you suffering from any glare reflecting off a white bar



I can see the top of mine. No issues...

[Mike57]

I can only see the tops of the verticals, the horizontal top tube is below the line of sight. That is the new ARB bar on the late model D4. Personally I don't like the two tone look.

[shedmarket]

Had my ARB bar fitted today. From the drivers seat you cannot see the top bar, just the top of the two pillars. Spotlight brackets are very close to the bonnet, if you get a roo hopefully it does get pushed back at all or the bonnet will get it. Other than that it looks good.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8ZKcaw8PT2jb0ZWbGdBdW1nWFk/view?usp=sharing


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8ZKcaw8PT2jT1dXYVdVZGNWUm8/view?usp=sharing

[BMKal]

Had my ARB bar fitted today. From the drivers seat you cannot see the top bar, just the top of the two pillars. Spotlight brackets are very close to the bonnet, if you get a roo hopefully it does get pushed back at all or the bonnet will get it. Other than that it looks good.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8ZKcaw8PT2jb0ZWbGdBdW1nWFk/view?usp=sharing


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8ZKcaw8PT2jT1dXYVdVZGNWUm8/view?usp=sharing

Looks good. ;)

The brackets close to the bonnet would be aerial brackets though (although I suppose you could mount a LED bar up there if you wanted to) - spotlights are mounted directly to the main channel of the bar. The older ARB bar (as I have) did not have these brackets for this exact reason - they are too close to the bodywork. Instead, two aerial mounting positions were provided (holes drilled & had rubber bungs installed) on the section of the main bar which wraps around the side of the vehicle (behind the hoops). Yours is a different shape in this area though (appears to be the only real difference between the new and old designs, other than the larger fog lights), and it doesn't look like you can mount aerials in these positions.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/689.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/qszckhnaz/)

[Babs]

Bloody suicide Roos, I can't get my bar quick enough. They just run right in front of you or into the side of your vehicle.

First trip to farm and had one run into the side, cracked my front flare. I'm hoping that the flare gets cut off above this crack when they fit the ARB Bar. Lucky I was going slow otherwise that would have been worse :(



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[Mike57]

Yep they will cut above that crack.

[Babs]

Yep they will cut above that crack.

Me so Lucky :D

Thanks Mike :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[letherm]

Bloody suicide Roos, I can't get my bar quick enough. They just run right in front of you or into the side of your vehicle.

First trip to farm and had one run into the side, cracked my front flare. I'm hoping that the flare gets cut off above this crack when they fit the ARB Bar. Lucky I was going slow otherwise that would have been worse :(



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At least you don't have to worry about that first scratch anymore.:p Lucky there wasn't more damage.

Martin

[rhinosm]

Hi Babs
Back luck
I have a similar issue.
Hit a roo in SA, damaged fog light and bumper slightly.
Quote $3050 to repair.
Claimed insurance, got the cash and put towards ARB bar.
Insurance company was fine with it.
As you can see in photos, there was a little bit of flavouring left for the meal that night..

[laughto]

Bloody suicide Roos, I can't get my bar quick enough. They just run right in front of you or into the side of your vehicle.

First trip to farm and had one run into the side, cracked my front flare. I'm hoping that the flare gets cut off above this crack when they fit the ARB Bar. Lucky I was going slow otherwise that would have been worse :(



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Any idea how much the plastic guard costs to replace? I got whacked on the side as well on our recent 2 month excursion - on the second day. Probably go reluctantly down the Bull Bar path.

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[Babs]

Thanks Rhino, I never thought of the insurance path.

My excess is $650 so if it comes in at around $1,000 it's probably not worth the trouble but if it comes in a 2k or more happy days :)

I'll go past repairers and get a quote.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[letherm]

My excess is $650 so if it comes in at around $1,000 it's probably not worth the trouble but if it comes in a 2k or more happy days :)


I'd be claiming unless it affects your no claim bonus etc. You pay the premiums, so why not claim when you've had an accident? Had a similar situation with my last car when someone wiped out my rear wheel arch in a car park. Took it to a repairer and he wasn't sure without pulling the area apart how much because of potential hidden damage. I was going to simply get it patched up so to speak but he suggested claiming as the cost of the excess was close to what a "rough" estimate and this meant that I would get everything replaced. Made sense to me and I got some value for my premiums that year.

Martin

[Garfield]

Hey BMKal, I noticed from the photo of your D4 that you have a bonnet protector. Can I ask where you got it from and did you have trouble fitting it ? I went to a Land Rover dealer and asked for a D3 bonnet protector, because I had been told they also fitted a D4. BUT the spare parts guy said they have different fitting clips and wouldn't attach properly to a D4.


Any help appreciated.

[BMKal]

Hey BMKal, I noticed from the photo of your D4 that you have a bonnet protector. Can I ask where you got it from and did you have trouble fitting it ? I went to a Land Rover dealer and asked for a D3 bonnet protector, because I had been told they also fitted a D4. BUT the spare parts guy said they have different fitting clips and wouldn't attach properly to a D4.


Any help appreciated.



I got mine from the LR dealership that I bought the vehicle from in Perth. I have since bought a spare one (they told me at the time that it was the last one in stock, but I would expect that they should still have them as it is still a current model vehicle). Spare is sitting in a box up in the roof of the shed in case I need it one day.

Note - you can't buy them black. They are only available as clear units. To make it black if you want to, mask around the edges and spray paint the INSIDE - I used a satin black spray paint. Fitting the bonnet protector is about a five minute job - all you need is a philips head screwdriver (no different to just about any other car I've ever fitted one to).

As far as I'm aware, there would be no difference at all between the D3 and D4. Pretty sure that the bonnets are identical (I'll stand corrected if somebody knows better). LR Part number for the bonnet (hood) is BKA780040 for both D3 and D4, so I really don't see why there would be any difference in bonnet protectors. ;)

[Garfield]

Thanks BMKal. Other people have told me the bonnet protectors for D4 are the same for D3's. By your picture I assume yours is a D4 ? If so, I'll just go and buy one any way from Land Rover spare parts and give it a go. I do a bit of highway driving and don't want chips on the front of the bonnet

[Russrobe]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/524.jpg

Wooot😀

[LandyAndy]

Looks great Russ:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::coo l:
Andrew

[Tombie]

Any idea how much the plastic guard costs to replace? I got whacked on the side as well on our recent 2 month excursion - on the second day. Probably go reluctantly down the Bull Bar path.



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Swap with Babs - he's going to just cut that section off!!!

[rhinosm]

Hi Russ
What model Runva winch did you go for?
Thanks

[Russrobe]

Hi Russ
What model Runva winch did you go for?
Thanks
The 11000 premium. It looked to be worth the extra coin. Tbh i have no experience with winches and it was Tombie that put me onto Runva. The warranty was a selling point too.

[Babs]

Swap with Babs - he's going to just cut that section off!!!

Ha ha ha :) good "thinkin Lincoln"

Wrong side though :D

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Russrobe]

Worth noting though that this one does fit without rotating the motor. Someone mentioned the old versoon doesn't. ..Also arb did need to fit a spacer kit to the fairlead...

[Babs]

Worth noting though that this one does fit without rotating the motor. Someone mentioned the old versoon doesn't. ..Also arb did need to fit a spacer kit to the fairlead...

Bit confused, looking at this sideways :o is yours a Summit Bar ❓ so will the Runva 11k lb fit the new Summit Bar ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Russrobe]

Bit confused, looking at this sideways :o is yours a Summit Bar ❓ so will the Runva 11k lb fit the new Summit Bar ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner
Nah deluxe. Sorry babs I've turned it into a show us your bar thread. My bad. Was a tad too excited with the finished look.

[Babs]

Nah deluxe. Sorry babs I've turned it into a show us your bar thread. My bad. Was a tad too excited with the finished look.

Ha ha ha Russ I was just having some fun with your sideways pic. :)

I'm genuinely curious if the Runva 11k will fit on the new Summit Bar ❓

Your Deluxe looks good colour coded :D

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[rhinosm]

I'm seriously considering Runva 11K also.
Looks the goods.
My bar is being fitted 31/8

[Russrobe]

I'm seriously considering Runva 11K also.
Looks the goods.
My bar is being fitted 31/8
Would be ordering now... Mine took a week to arrive.

[Mungus]

I'm genuinely curious if the Runva 11k will fit on the new Summit Bar ❓
Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner


I sure hope so. I have the 11XP sitting in the shed waiting for fitment to the Summit bar on the 14/09.
ARB will fit but not wire, as it is not their product.

[Russrobe]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/233.jpg

I believr this is the clutch lever people worry about. Nice and easy to get to from this hole. Now to wire this thing up... todays job

[Russrobe]

On a side not just noticed how crowded my battery area is getting! If anyone has any ideas of where to mount this winch isolator would be all ears too. Thanks https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/225.jpg
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Can only think of the main battery box lid.

Looks like the leads are only long enough to reach the traxide battery that's annoying....

[Tombie]

If it's a Runva the leads are long enough to make the main battery.

[Russrobe]

If it's a Runva the leads are long enough to make the main battery.
Where did you mount that isolator switch Tombie??

[Bobc163]

DO NOT run the negative to the battery run it to an earth stud nearby
I was informed about this by Tim from traxide,who should know about this

[Russrobe]

DO NOT run the negative to the battery run it to an earth stud nearby
I was informed about this by Tim from traxide,who should know about this
Thanks Bob. I emailed tim this last night too. That's where i was getting confused as to where I'm meant to earth it. The instructions clearly state do not earth to the body. But the earth plate makes much more sense.

[Tombie]

Where did you mount that isolator switch Tombie??



I have never fitted an isolator to any of my winch installs. [emoji48]

[rhinosm]

I'm having my ARB bull bar fitted today.
They have called me to say there is a problem.
The bar doesn't have provision for the Adaptive Cruise Control Radar.
They actually have a mounting bracket to suit from Ford Ranger BB but ARB HQ have not tried and tested.
I spoke to LR who understandably said they honestly don't know if radar will work if relocated 200mm to the right, and may void warranty.
Anyone come across this issue?
I will have to turn it off for now until ARB come up with a solution which may never happen.

[LRD414]

Perhaps not helpful & just my thoughts .....

if your choice is between turned off and potentially voided warranty or not working properly then why not just get it fitted anyway.

It may well work and if not you're no worse off anyway given that the bar is basically permanent.

Cheers,
Scott

[rhinosm]

I picked it up today and looks the goods.
You do notice a little heavier in steering but not a lot.
We have added 77kgs to front.
Look out skippy.

[Mungus]

So ARB are mounting my Runva 11XP, but will not wire it.


Will I be able to access the winch to cable & connect with the bar fitted?
What is the best route for cables to main battery?

[Tombie]

So ARB are mounting my Runva 11XP, but will not wire it.


Will I be able to access the winch to cable & connect with the bar fitted?
What is the best route for cables to main battery?



Yes. Drop PS and centre plate.. then run along and up under PS headlight.

[Mungus]

Sorry but another question; Do I have to get ARB to fit the bar, or am I allowed to fit it myself. After seeing the butcher job they did to a mates brand new Explorer, I am concerned about letting them go anywhere near my vehicle.

[Tombie]

You can get supply only.

[Mungus]

Thanks Tombie!

[D4206]

Had the ARB Summit Bull Bar fitted last week....some pics attached for information. Generally happy with the look of the bar and the glad I went for the color match. The gaps look a bit large to my eye so it might need some fine adjustment tuning ....when I mentioned this to ARB...they were generally disinterested, saying that there needs to be a large gap between the bar and body to allow for chassis movement?? Be interested to hear from others who have had this bar installed.

The fitting included a Smitty Built X20 Winch.When I picked the car up I noticed that the cover over the winch area was missing and when I questioned why it was not there was advised that they left it off so that I could access the winch controls. (note that they did not give me the cover...I've had to chase them up a number of times and finally received it today) I reckon it should be able to be fitted so that it pivots and provides adequate access to the controls...just a pity that ARB don't bother to do a complete installation job.

Overall happy with the product..not very happy with the installation service provided and their general disinterest in my comments once they had received my money!

[Tombie]

Gap looks like it is correct. On corrugations bar work moves significantly.

And if the guard follows the line of the bar it's spot on

[Mungus]

Overall happy with the product..not very happy with the installation service provided and their general disinterest in my comments once they had received my money!


I have decided to fit mine myself. So, after three emails explaining that it is a fact the factory fog lights don't fit, receiving an outstanding balance of around 400 for their fog light kit and wiring harness because the factory fog lights are a low 50W (there website states theirs are 51W), misinformation about which way the winch base mounts, I informed them I will fit myself so supply only. Good news is that gives me about 300 credit, so another 3-4 on the day and I'm getting a twin compressor.
Thanks for the measurements, looks great (big, but great) I might go 5mm less, about 10mm at the front, reducing side to 20mm. Should be enough clearance? I hope.

[D4206]

I have decided to fit mine myself. So, after three emails explaining that it is a fact the factory fog lights don't fit, receiving an outstanding balance of around 400 for their fog light kit and wiring harness because the factory fog lights are a low 50W (there website states theirs are 51W), misinformation about which way the winch base mounts, I informed them I will fit myself so supply only. Good news is that gives me about 300 credit, so another 3-4 on the day and I'm getting a twin compressor.
Thanks for the measurements, looks great (big, but great) I might go 5mm less, about 10mm at the front, reducing side to 20mm. Should be enough clearance? I hope.

Hi Mungus,
I was not aware of any issues fitting the ARB fog lights...as far as I know they just plugged them into the harness..and they work OK. Be interested to see some pictures of how your clearances end up.
cheers,
bill

[Mungus]

Bill,
If I could trouble you for one more pic of the gap at the trimmed guard flare in the next couple of days please?

[D4206]

Bill,
If I could trouble you for one more pic of the gap at the trimmed guard flare in the next couple of days please?

Hi Mungus,

Side picture attached. If you could post some pics up of your install that would be great. I need to take off the bashplates to get to the better look at the fixing bolts, and haven't done this yet.

cheers,
Bill

[rhinosm]

Heres mine Mungus

[D4206]

Can you post some close up of the gaps between the lights & grille? Is your winch flap hinged?

[D4206]

Also noticed your uprights are different to mine...your gussets appear to be continuous? Mine are not.

[Tombie]

As I mentioned earlier - if it all lines up - do NOT be tempted to close up the gaps...

It WILL cause damage on corrugations if you do...

(It will also make pulling grills etc difficult)

[Mungus]

I hear you Tombie and am fully aware of allowance for movement. The side one was the one I wanted to reduce by a few mm, but I think I will just get as close to what has been shown and fill with Pinchweld seal.

[Tombie]

Keep in mind pinchweld + dirt = abrasive compound [emoji6]

[Tombie]

Also, the bar will now have been "pin" bolted in place - a final bolt or 2 per side drilled through both mount and bar to lock in position.

If you can't find enough room to drill a complete new hole through both it wont work

[rhinosm]

More Pics

[D4206]

Thanks for the pics Rhinosm...hard to tell from the pics but seems like the vertical gap between the underside of the lights and top if bar is more consistent on your fitting... My gap varies from 12mm at the edge of the light to 25mm near the grille. I.e. Top of bar is not parallel to underside of lights.

[Babs]

Mine was fitted over the last two days.

Here are some pics of the gaps, they definitely are big gaps :o



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[Babs]

I'm going to put some door seal foam the one with the sticky back, in those gaps on the side, I'm pretty sure Bunnings has it in white as well.


They fitted a Runva 11,000lbs winch and sunk the controller down inside so now the cover plate can't be fitted, it's half below and half above the bar. I would have thought the controller would be fitted on top of the cover plate, they are telling me this is normal fitting as you need to see what is happening with the winch and rope.

What are your thoughts on this, are people using the cover plate and installing controller box on top or leaving cover plate off. ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[D4206]

Babs, is that the Summit Bar?? Mine differs from that... The top on mine is not level and the gussets on the verticals are not continuos.

My winch controller sits just below the level of the cover plate, so I intend to fit it and have it hinged. Will post a pic once it's done.

Bit disappointing that your controller sticks up...but it seems to me that what you end up with from ARB is a bit of a lottery. They are fitting these things everyday so they really should know what's possible and what's not and discuss it with you rather than just do what suits them.

Cheers,
Bill

[DIS4]

More Pics

Hi, I just showed ARB your picture if my bull bar FUJI White will be the same, they said they fit yours. Are you happy with their work? Did you pay for ARB fog light kits? I also tried to get them to fit a 3rd party Winch, prefer Runva winch with limited lift time warranty. Did you get the winch cover plate since you didn't have one. Next on my list will be driving light, light bar and roof rack.

Cheers,

[DIS4]

Heres mine Mungus

Your bull bar looks great, can't wait to get mine in next couple of weeks. Forgot to ask how was the trip to Simpson, any story and picture to share?

[Babs]

Babs, is that the Summit Bar?? Mine differs from that... The top on mine is not level and the gussets on the verticals are not continuos. My winch controller sits just below the level of the cover plate, so I intend to fit it and have it hinged. Will post a pic once it's done. Bit disappointing that your controller sticks up...but it seems to me that what you end up with from ARB is a bit of a lottery. They are fitting these things everyday so they really should know what's possible and what's not and discuss it with you rather than just do what suits them. Cheers, Bill


Bill yes that's the Summit Bar.

I'm picking the Discovery up within the hour and I'll take some more photos.

ARB did not fit mine, I had an independent do the work.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Tombie]

You lot need to get in touch with your vehicles!!!

Fit it yourselves. Saves a packet and an easy afternoon on the driveway will see it done.

[Russrobe]

Think i like the controller box better on top. Minor detail though. Suppose some people prefer it more hidden down low...

[Babs]

Some pics from today.



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[Russrobe]

Looks great!

[DIS4]

Some pics from today.



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Babs, it looks great, I also want to fit Runva 11XP 12V Dyneema BLACK Premium Edition. What is your model? Might get ARB fit in for me.

[DIS4]

I'm going to put some door seal foam the one with the sticky back, in those gaps on the side, I'm pretty sure Bunnings has it in white as well.


They fitted a Runva 11,000lbs winch and sunk the controller down inside so now the cover plate can't be fitted, it's half below and half above the bar. I would have thought the controller would be fitted on top of the cover plate, they are telling me this is normal fitting as you need to see what is happening with the winch and rope.

What are your thoughts on this, are people using the cover plate and installing controller box on top or leaving cover plate off. ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

I got to reminder ARB to fit control box above the cover plate, I believe there is another plate for under the bar.

Cheers

[Hugh Jars]

Any change to its handling/weight feel, Babs?

[Babs]

Babs, it looks great, I also want to fit Runva 11XP 12V Dyneema BLACK Premium Edition. What is your model? Might get ARB fit in for me.

Dis4 that's the Black Premium fitted. :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mungus]

You lot need to get in touch with your vehicles!!!

Fit it yourselves. Saves a packet and an easy afternoon on the driveway will see it done.
Not sure about an easy afternoon; I'm into my fourth day, well partial days. Would help if I didn't have to keep going back to ARB each day to get the bits they missed. Probably only two to three hours a day of actual steady work, but a lot of stuffing around to get it right... OK perfect.. I just can't help myself. You know, measure twice...; do it once...blah blah. If you had someone to help and all the right bits, I reckon you would do it in a sunny day easy. ARB quote six to fit the bar, no winch etc.

[Babs]

Babs, it looks great, I also want to fit Runva 11XP 12V Dyneema BLACK Premium Edition. What is your model? Might get ARB fit in for me.

Dis4 that's the Black Premium fitted. :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mungus]

I got to reminder ARB to fit control box above the cover plate, I believe there is another plate for under the bar.

Cheers
I've mounted my Runva 11XP solenoid box to the plate below, but am going to change it tonight to mount on the cover plate. The angle bracket supplied needs to be bent closed a little to allow the hand piece to plug in. It leaves a massive gap around the box and I don't like it. I'll have to cut the rear out of the cover plate to allow for cabling but I think I'll like the finished look better.

[Babs]

Any change to its handling/weight feel, Babs?

Hugh I haven't noticed any changes, it still felt the same smooooth as :)

I'll keep you posted as I spend more time in it.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Quick update, just realised if you mount the solenoid box on top of the cover plate you don't have access to the free spool handle on the winch. :O Cheers, Babs :D

Edit: I have been informed this is not correct, there is still access :)






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[Babs]

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[Babs]

Mine has this grille at the front so it's not possible to access spool handle through here, so where the solenoid box is fitted without cover plate is right in my circumstances.



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Also does this look right, the Runva rope protector plate (I'm sure there's a special name for it) looks like it's sitting a little low, maybe not compatible with the ARB Bar?



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[Grentarc]

Mine has this grille at the front so it's not possible to access spool handle through here, so where the solenoid box is fitted without cover plate is right in my circumstances.



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Also does this look right, the Runva rope protector plate (I'm sure there's a special name for it) looks like it's sitting a little low, maybe not compatible with the ARB Bar?



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It looks like you need an offset fairlead like this
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/514.jpg

[Babs]

It looks like you need an offset fairlead like this

Ha ha ha :) yes, "fairlead" that's the technical word I was looking for.

Where do I source this ❓

Thanks Grentarc :)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[rhinosm]

Babs
The grill on BB on the RHS of number plate opens up. It pulls open with a plastic latch.
Will that help reach winch lever?

[D4206]

Mine has this grille at the front so it's not possible to access spool handle through here, so where the solenoid box is fitted without cover plate is right in my circumstances.



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Also does this look right, the Runva rope protector plate (I'm sure there's a special name for it) looks like it's sitting a little low, maybe not compatible with the ARB Bar?



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Babs,

My number plate has been mounted on a flippable plate in front of the winch cable...I didnt ask for this...its how it came. Access to the clutch lever is via the little plastic door on the RHS.

In the last photo you can see the rubber strip that I've fixed to the underside of the light to fill in the gap.

Cheers,
Bill

[rhinosm]

I agree Babs, your number plate seems to be high.
Mine is fitted like D4206, lower and with a hinge, and I don't have a winch.

[Mungus]

Babs,
They should have fitted their Hawse Fairlead spacer kit. It repositions the Runva fairlead. I'll post a pic later.

[Russrobe]

Babs,
They should have fitted their Hawse Fairlead spacer kit. It repositions the Runva fairlead. I'll post a pic later.

This is what they did to mine. Same winch, different bar though.

[Babs]

There you go, I had no idea that secret door was on the grille to access the winch. Thanks guys :D

Couple of questions

Does the number plate flip hinge come with the bar ❓

And is the Runva supposed to come with an offset fairlead ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mungus]

Flip up Licence Plate kit P/N 3500630 is a separate item to the bar, also comes as part of the optional winch install kit. Most of that kit though is solenoid mount brackets for Warn and other ARB stocked winches.
Runva comes with the fairlead you have. The ARB Hawse Fairlead spacer kit is P/N 3500600. Has a positioning plate, two alloy bosses (that offset the Runva fairlead) and a cover plate.

[Mungus]

Finally finished.
_DSC3655_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114193&stc=1&d=1474365161)


Spent most of today stuffing around with the gaps. A mm here, ends up 5mm there. In the end I lost it and loosened it all up and started from scratch. Could only get the lower pin bolts in. I'll need an angle drill for the other two as the winch is in the way.
_DSC3656_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114194&stc=1&d=1474365481)


_DSC3657_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114195&stc=1&d=1474365481)
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I'm happy the end result. A big thank you to all those that have helped with info, pics and advice!


_DSC3658_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114197&stc=1&d=1474365702)

[D4206]

Looks great....the gaps look consistent. Well done.

[Mungus]

For those that have fitted, or will be fitting the ARB Summit bar, it might pay to check where the front air suspension lines run through the drivers side bar mount to the suspension solenoid. Whilst they are not sharp edges, the lines don't sit freely anymore and vibration/rubbing may cause the lines to wear through. I wrapped them in spiral wrap, but a bit of edge protection (pinch weld or similar) may be better.
_DSC3633_RW.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114198&stc=1&d=1474367032)
_DSC3612_RW.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114199&stc=1&d=1474367032)

[DIS4]

For those that have fitted, or will be fitting the ARB Summit bar, it might pay to check where the front air suspension lines run through the drivers side bar mount to the suspension solenoid. Whilst they are not sharp edges, the lines don't sit freely anymore and vibration/rubbing may cause the lines to wear through. I wrapped them in spiral wrap, but a bit of edge protection (pinch weld or similar) may be better.
_DSC3633_RW.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114198&stc=1&d=1474367032)
_DSC3612_RW.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114199&stc=1&d=1474367032)

Great work, did you also using ARB Winch installation kits to fit Runva winch? Any thing else you need to fit the winch?

[Russrobe]

Mungus are you going to remove the wireless transmitter? It's mentioned in the instructions that it's not 100% waterproof.. For the odd occasion I'm going to use it i might just use the cable. Anyway instead of using the isolator they provide i ended up disconnecting the + terminal until required. Not sure what you plan on doing...

[BMKal]

That looks good. The color matching definitely suits your Disco, and the finish on the bar looks really well done.

I gather they have fitted after-market fog lights, as they look significantly larger than the OEM lights that were re-fitted into my older version ARB bar.

Now all you need is a decent pair of driving lights to make the front end look very business-like. :D

[Tombie]

For those that have fitted, or will be fitting the ARB Summit bar, it might pay to check where the front air suspension lines run through the drivers side bar mount to the suspension solenoid. Whilst they are not sharp edges, the lines don't sit freely anymore and vibration/rubbing may cause the lines to wear through. I wrapped them in spiral wrap, but a bit of edge protection (pinch weld or similar) may be better.
_DSC3633_RW.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114198&stc=1&d=1474367032)
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That's a bit concerning...

Are you saying the kit didn't have the spiral wrap that's supposed to be including in it? My bar fitting kit came with the spiral wrap and instructions on its use...

Or did you pay for install and they didn't fit it?

[DIS4]

Mine has this grille at the front so it's not possible to access spool handle through here, so where the solenoid box is fitted without cover plate is right in my circumstances.



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Hi, Babs. Do you know if you have to get it from authorised dealer of Runva winch in order to qualify the limited lifetime warranty? also do you need to serviced by the dealer? or installed by the dealer?

Cheers,

[Mungus]

Great work, did you also using ARB Winch installation kits to fit Runva winch? Any thing else you need to fit the winch?
I originally fitted it to the recessed plate using the Runva supplied bracket, _DSC3629_R.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114256&stc=1&d=1474454133) but didn't like it _DSC3635_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114257&stc=1&d=1474454133) (see post 427), so I mounted it direct to the cover plate.


_DSC3642_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114258&stc=1&d=1474454133) _DSC3659_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114259&stc=1&d=1474454133)


See post 440 for the spacer kit and hinged plate bracket. Those are the
only two bits you need.



Mungus are you going to remove the wireless transmitter? It's mentioned in the instructions that it's not 100% waterproof.. For the odd occasion I'm going to use it i might just use the cable. Anyway instead of using the isolator they provide i ended up disconnecting the + terminal until required. Not sure what you plan on doing...


I will be installing an isolator, purely because of the wireless unit and chance of malfunction. I have a spot on the sidewall behind the passenger headlight where it will fit along side the ARB twin compressor, but will wait for Traxide kit to arrive in a week or so before any permanent install. With the wireless unit I sealed around the plastic box join and either side of the wire entries. I now deem it water resistant/proof.


That looks good. The color matching definitely suits your Disco, and the finish on the bar looks really well done.

I gather they have fitted after-market fog lights, as they look significantly larger than the OEM lights that were re-fitted into my older version ARB bar.

Now all you need is a decent pair of driving lights to make the front end look very business-like. :D


Yes, ARB Fog light kit is needed. The OEM lights do not fit this bar, contrary to what their website states. You don't need the Fog Light loom kit they insisted I needed, "as the OEM lights are a LOW 50W". Theirs are 51W, so I think the loom will handle that extra power. You also need their 'Bullet Adaptor kit' as the OEM light plugs clip on the sides, whereas the ARB lights fasten on the top. Cut off OEM plug, solder on the adaptor bullet wires, heat shrink, tape and all's good and secure.
I think Frylyts for xmas maybe :)


That's a bit concerning...

Are you saying the kit didn't have the spiral wrap that's supposed to be including in it? My bar fitting kit came with the spiral wrap and instructions on its use...

Or did you pay for install and they didn't fit it?


No mention of it in the fitting instructions and nothing in the fitting kit. Oh and no I didn't pay for the install; "I got in touch with my vehicle", as a wise man once said :p and did it all by myself. Well... with the help of my second favourite piece of plant. _DSC3654_R.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114260&stc=1&d=1474454133)

[Russrobe]

Ahh that;s right you're putting the Aux battery on the drivers side... That will give you some more room. Only downside to that winch cable, we're stuck with the piece outside the fairlead.....

[Tombie]

Big thumbs up Mungus.

Hoist is next on my shopping list. [emoji6]

[Babs]

Awesome Mungus :) looks great.

I'm jealous you have a hoist, that's on my list as well.

You did a good job with the cover plate :)

I took mine back to Coldys yesterday and asked the to fit on cover plate and they refused, said that ARB doesn't want the solenoid box fitted to cover plate as you can't see the rope if it binds up on winch, they want you to have full view of what the winch is doing, makes sense ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Babs]

Hi, Babs. Do you know if you have to get it from authorised dealer of Runva winch in order to qualify the limited lifetime warranty? also do you need to serviced by the dealer? or installed by the dealer? Cheers,

I never asked these questions but the fact it was fitted by a retailer I'm sure it would be covered.

I'll cross that bridge if I ever get to it ;)

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mungus]

Awesome Mungus :) looks great.


I took mine back to Coldys yesterday and asked the to fit on cover plate and they refused, said that ARB doesn't want the solenoid box fitted to cover plate as you can't see the rope if it binds up on winch, they want you to have full view of what the winch is doing, makes sense ❓

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner
That's a bit of a cop out excuse for not wanting to do the job I think Babs. Take a look at the previous ARB bar and winch as advertised.

[Tombie]

That fitment leaves 2 exposed holes you can see through. [emoji106]

[Babs]

That fitment leaves 2 exposed holes you can see through. [emoji106]


That's what they told me when I said the same thing as Mungus, they told me the other bull bars have two cut outs you can see through.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mungus]

Two cut outs, there's about twenty in the grill panel. Winching safety none on none hey; stand directly in front of your vehicle as close to the rope as possible, so you can see the spool while winching 3t of vehicle. :eek:

[Babs]

Two cut outs, there's about twenty in the grill panel. Winching safety none on none hey; stand directly in front of your vehicle as close to the rope as possible, so you can see the spool while winching 3t of vehicle. :eek:


Ha ha ha :) I see your point.

But I don't think that's what they have in mind, synthetic rope binds unlike steel cable, having such a big opening gives you full view. You might want to pause winching to have a quick glance through the top to see all is o., It wouldn't be as quick to try and look through the grille section in these circumstances.

As much as I would prefer to have the cover plate fitted, there is some sense to their design and as easy as it would be to relocate the solenoid box onto the cover plate, I think I have just convinced myself to leave it be :)

So far the way it looks doesn't bother me, if that ever changes I can always make the change.


What did bother me was the gap on the side where bar matches flare.

You could see white panel and black plastic through the gap.

I went out and bought some different foams to fit in there but they all looked terrible.

Then yesterday afternoon I came up with a brainstorm idea, to paint it. So I sprayed plastidip in there and Hey Presto it solved the problem.

Looking at the bar side on now just looks blacked out in the gap.

A bit of advice if anyone wants to do the same, paint the inner panels with proper paint before the bar goes on. I did plastidip because that's what I had on hand and it got on the lights, bar and flare in the process but the good thing is it peels straight off.

In hindsight I should have waited and painted it with real paint and an artist's paint brush for a more long term solution.

Cheers, Babs :D Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Mungus]

So I was feeling the extra weight. Mainly thought heavier steering and a little heavier whilst braking. Checked tyre pressure. Still felt it, not much, but enough to let me know I had just added 90kgs over the front. Added Bar (110kgs Bar and Winch) 20kgs of stuff that stayed off. Certainly something that would fade with time, so as a compromise for protection and winch I was still very happy with the vehicle... and then today; I got my easy as pie power steering and lightness back.


It's just what the doctor ordered, at this time; new rims and rubber. I don't notice the bar anymore. :D

[Babs]

Fitted the isolator switch today to the winch, seen as the guys who fitted the winch didn't do it.

I wasn't comfortable having constant power to the winch, all I needed for a disaster was one of my kids to get the wireless remote out of the glove box and start pressing buttons.

I'm not happy where input it but I was limited by the short lead that goes from bat terminal to isolator.

It now sits on top of the auxiliary battery.

I will source another cable and relocate it to the side of the washer bottle.



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[Mungus]

Good call Babs. Not just the kids though, that wireless control unit in the solenoid box gets water in it, anything could happen and without you knowing.

[Tombie]

That's why I remove the hook and cable tie the rope to the bar..

No hook to steal, and if it activates - just snaps a cable tie and rotates till the battery goes flat (easy to rectify).

You can also fit a waterproof push button on the back of the controller to isolate the remote...

[Russrobe]

Fitted the isolator switch today to the winch, seen as the guys who fitted the winch didn't do it.

I wasn't comfortable having constant power to the winch, all I needed for a disaster was one of my kids to get the wireless remote out of the glove box and start pressing buttons.

I'm not happy where input it but I was limited by the short lead that goes from bat terminal to isolator.

It now sits on top of the auxiliary battery.

I will source another cable and relocate it to the side of the washer bottle.



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Have you had a look at the hood liner since putting that there Babs? I cut down the 2 hooks holding down the aux battery on mine because even those were rubbing on the liner... Before vibrations make a hole in it.

[Babs]

Have you had a look at the hood liner since putting that there Babs? I cut down the 2 hooks holding down the aux battery on mine because even those were rubbing on the liner... Before vibrations make a hole in it.


I keep bloody forgetting to check this.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll remember, I'll keep you posted. [emoji106]

[AndrewM]

I'm having my ARB bull bar fitted today.
They have called me to say there is a problem.
The bar doesn't have provision for the Adaptive Cruise Control Radar.
They actually have a mounting bracket to suit from Ford Ranger BB but ARB HQ have not tried and tested. I spoke to LR who understandably said they honestly don't know if radar will work if relocated 200mm to the right, and may void warranty.
Anyone come across this issue?
I will have to turn it off for now until ARB come up with a solution which may never happen.

Hi rhinosm,

How did you go with the radar mounting? I love mine and will hate to lose it. Is it still actually mounted/fitted and plugged in behind the steel bar work? I'd assumed it would have been originally mounted to the now replaced plastic bumper.

Ditto with front cameras - any progress or resolution?

[rhinosm]

Hi Andrew
The bull bar is on and looking good.
The ACC radar remained in its position, untouched, and is working also.
It is mounted car frame, rather than to bumper.
There appears to be just enough open area for it to work.
If I ever fit a winch it would be completely blocked.

[AndrewM]

Hi Andrew
The bull bar is on and looking good.
The ACC radar remained in its position, untouched, and is working also.
It is mounted car frame, rather than to bumper.
There appears to be just enough open area for it to work.
If I ever fit a winch it would be completely blocked.

Awesome :)
Except I will be fitting a winch:mad:
Can you describe exactly where it is fitted please? I can't see it with OEM bumper in place.

Thanks too to everyone for all the posts and pics of the Summit bar. It has been a long time coming but looks like ARB has delivered a great product again, albeit with a few initial fitting and gap concerns.

Andrew

[rhinosm]

Its directly behind and above number plate in my photos.
It must be working thru grill above umber plate.
If they keep number plate low enough it works, if located high, in front of grill section it would be blocked.
You can make it out in photos, a rectangular shape at back.

[Tombie]

Can you take a pic level showing more of the front - I think there may be a possibility that with a careful installation the Winch and Adaptive cruise could coexist

[rhinosm]

Your wish is my command.
I hope this helps.
Needs a wash.

[Tombie]

I think you may be in luck..
I think you may be able to add a Winch as well - would just require some custom cable making to run it slightly differently.

[AndrewM]

I think you may be in luck..
I think you may be able to add a Winch as well - would just require some custom cable making to run it slightly differently.

Thanks Tombie - sounds hopeful. Where would the adaptive cruise control radar housing be relocated - same height but to the left or right of its current position? A winch (eg Warn XP9.5 or Zeon) would have its control box protruding above the top of the bull bar bumper section so a higher mounting may not work, and the winch drum and motor would obscure its the central view through the narrow gap above the number plate.

It is also mounted quite deep behind the front of the bull bar, so would have to careful that the rubber overriders do not interfer with the spread of the radar beam, although from experience this seems to be quite narrow and maybe aimed a little to the left. The car will brake if a motorbike weaves into and then out of my lane from the left on the freeway :mad:.

Andrew

[Tombie]

If not recommend a Warn anything - and in this application it looks like you may be able to mount a control box above the bar or even behind offset over the Winch motor.

The Winch drum shouldn't be and issue. Being below the line of the slot.. and the radar module should be able to stay where it is..

I'd need to crawl under and take a good look but I think you may be ok..

[Babs]

Is anyone else having front sensors continually going off after putting vehicle in reverse and the back in drive. Mine are driving me nuts.

Apparently there is a washer kit from ARB that is supposed to set the sensor back into the bar, it's being ordered at the moment. Does anyone already have these fitted [emoji780]

[Tombie]

Front sensors are a PITA. You can disable using an IID tool

[BMKal]

There's only one type of front parking sensors you need - the ones that make stupid noises are a waste of time. ;)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/89.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/u8lwjk0vp/) :angel:

[Babs]

Ha ha ha [emoji3] very true

[Mungus]

Babs, Mine are working fine and actually protrude a couple of mm. Only note of caution with instructions was to ensure the existing plastic washer/shroud was still in place. Oh and the alignment was the same.

[AndrewM]

Hi Mungus,

Did you re-fit your front cameras into the ARB bar? (Or maybe you say this earlier in the thread?)

Andrew

[letherm]

Is anyone else having front sensors continually going off after putting vehicle in reverse and the back in drive. Mine are driving me nuts.

Apparently there is a washer kit from ARB that is supposed to set the sensor back into the bar, it's being ordered at the moment. Does anyone already have these fitted [emoji780]

My front ones refitted to the bullbar from the original bumper go off when it's wet. There's a button on the console in my D4 that silences them. Might help you if you have it too.

Martin

[Mungus]

Hi Mungus,

Did you re-fit your front cameras into the ARB bar? (Or maybe you say this earlier in the thread?)

Andrew

Not yet Andrew. They are wrapped in plastic bubble wrap, cable tied to a loom within the bar at the moment. I have to look at getting the plastic guide/bracket mounts off the old bumper or maybe getting new ones. Then I'll look at positioning them on the bar or below the bar.
Need to finish Traxide install first though. A few extra cables have gone in so far.

[Babs]

Time for a new Bullbar.

Yesterday while I was enjoying my breakfast a woman decided to back into my ARB Bar.

Dented the side luckily from a glance there is no panel damage, I'm not sure if it could have done any internal I would think not [emoji780]

So time for a new bar.

I'll be open to offers on the existing one with the dent in the side.
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[letherm]

Time for a new Bullbar.

Yesterday while I was enjoying my breakfast a woman decided to back into my ARB Bar.

Dented the side luckily from a glance there is no panel damage, I'm not sure if it could have done any internal I would think not [emoji780]

So time for a new bar.

I'll be open to offers on the existing one with the dent in the side.
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Martin

[Melbourne Park]

I am thinking its time to get a bull bar. Have a white late 2014 D4 HSE, doesn't have radar cruise and doesn't have a front camera. Not intending a winch in the short term.

Should I get it colour coded?

Do bull bar makers have spot lamp packages?

Will I have to get new fog lamps?

Are there issues with spot lamps and cooling - I tow a 1900kg tare off road van, its GVM is 2500kg. So perhaps cooling might be an issue with spot lamps.

Thanks for any advice on what is best and how to buy it!!

[rhinosm]

Hi
I went for the ARB bar, color coded. Looks good on a white vehicle.
Fog lamps are built in.
Driving light mounting holes are provided.
I just returned from 5000Km trip including Simpson Desert, towing camper with no cooling issues at all.
I'm very happy with mine.

[Melbourne Park]

Hi
I went for the ARB bar, color coded. Looks good on a white vehicle.
Fog lamps are built in.
Driving light mounting holes are provided.
I just returned from 5000Km trip including Simpson Desert, towing camper with no cooling issues at all.
I'm very happy with mine.

Thanks for the reply.

I checked with ARB maybe 18 months ago and at the time, they said they couldn't handle the front parkers. Since then I think they know how to handle them - but I am not sure. I quite like my front parkers and with the longer length of the vehicle with the bar, they seem even more important to me!

What spot lamps did you use? My understanding is that LEDs are not as good at identifying kangaroos. I also understand that Red and Grey roos are visible with different frequency of head lamps. My vehicle has Xenons (its and HSE) but although their low beam seems awesome, I don't think their high beam is all that exciting. They do show grey roos (in Victoria) but then again, when they are on the road a candle might illuminate them!

[rhinosm]

Hi
The ARB bar hasn't been available for long, barely 12 mths.
The bar does have provisions for front sensors, I don't have sensors, but the holes are there.
I do have radar and camera.
I went for Fyrlyt 9000 Driving Lights, following many recommendations on forum.
Honestly I have only used them once, lit up like Xmas.
I'm not an expert on lights so I can't advise either way.

[DieselLSE]

Hi Melbourne Park,
Neither the new or the old ARB bars were available earlier in the year when I needed one, so I went with Opposite Lock in basic black. I'm also in Brighton, so you are welcome to drop over and have a look if you like. I'm happy with it (good bar, but fitting instructions are woefully inadequate) but I admit I'm only interested in functionality, not looks. I also think there's little point fitting a bar without a winch, but I'm funny like that!
I'm also concerned about driving lights blocking airflow and I'm hesitating to fit the IPF lights from my old LSE. But it seems that the cooling of these cars is well sorted. Also, the standard lights are brilliant.

[Melbourne Park]

Hi
...
I went for Fyrlyt 9000 Driving Lights, following many recommendations on forum.
....
Looked at their web site - $630 for 9000 24V, $995 for 12V 9000, $595 12V 5000, about the same for 24V 5000 series. 24V 9000 seems best value, but not sure how costly it is to get 24V on a D4. The rest of my stuff is 12V ... I probably only need 150Watts anyway ... its best to avoid night driving really, but I do find myself doing it now and then.

[Melbourne Park]

Hi Melbourne Park,
Neither the new or the old ARB bars were available earlier in the year when I needed one, so I went with Opposite Lock in basic black. I'm also in Brighton, so you are welcome to drop over and have a look if you like. I'm happy with it (good bar, but fitting instructions are woefully inadequate) but I admit I'm only interested in functionality, not looks. I also think there's little point fitting a bar without a winch, but I'm funny like that!
I'm also concerned about driving lights blocking airflow and I'm hesitating to fit the IPF lights from my old LSE. But it seems that the cooling of these cars is well sorted. Also, the standard lights are brilliant.

My lights on high are OK for signs etc but they don't seem to stretch that far. Low beam is good though.

I'll email you my details, I would like to check your bar! I spoke to ARB and I asked if buying at a show was the only way to get a discount. They said it was - there's one in a month. I may be away then though.

Looking forward to seeing the OL version.

[BMKal]

The Fyrlyt 9000 24V lights come with 12 to 24 volt step-up transformers (one per light). You do not have to do anything additional to your vehicle to mount these lights.

I have them, and where I live - nothing comes near them in performance. I have a good set of HID driving lights on my work ute - the Fyrlyt's leave these for dead. Cooling issues on a D4 with these lights fitted - I've found this to be a bit of an old wife's tale. I have driven across the Nullarbor and other long distance trips in 40 plus degrees on many occasions - the only time that I have ever seen even a slight cooling issue with the D4 was once when the front of the vehicle was covered in locusts. The lights have never been an issue. [wink11]

[Melbourne Park]

The Fyrlyt 9000 24V lights come with 12 to 24 volt step-up transformers (one per light). You do not have to do anything additional to your vehicle to mount these lights.

I have them, and where I live - nothing comes near them in performance. I have a good set of HID driving lights on my work ute - the Fyrlyt's leave these for dead. Cooling issues on a D4 with these lights fitted - I've found this to be a bit of an old wife's tale. I have driven across the Nullarbor and other long distance trips in 40 plus degrees on many occasions - the only time that I have ever seen even a slight cooling issue with the D4 was once when the front of the vehicle was covered in locusts. The lights have never been an issue. [wink11]

Thanks.

The lower cost 24V lights are for 24V vehicles such as trucks, which run 24V systems. Hence the lower price for 24V 9000 setups - $630. The retial $995 price for 12V includes the voltage change hardware, which therefor costs around $180 per light or about $365 more. I presume the similarity in price between the 5000 150W lights for both 24V and 12 V setups, is that I guess the hardware to convert 12V to 24V is much cheaper for 150W globes than is the 250W 12-24Volt hardware.

[shanegtr]

Thanks.

The lower cost 24V lights are for 24V vehicles such as trucks, which run 24V systems. Hence the lower price for 24V 9000 setups - $630. The retial $995 price for 12V includes the voltage change hardware, which therefor costs around $180 per light or about $365 more. I presume the similarity in price between the 5000 150W lights for both 24V and 12 V setups, is that I guess the hardware to convert 12V to 24V is much cheaper for 150W globes than is the 250W 12-24Volt hardware.
the 150W globes are 12V not 24V[thumbsupbig]

[Disco4Dave]

ARB have said (via a distributor) that they have no plans to support front cameras in their D4 bull bars.
From what I can tell neither OL nor Tuff support them either.
Does anyone know of a bull bar to suit a 2016 D4 which will support front parking sensors and cameras please?

[weeds]

Is it possible to get an unpainted bar, fit sensors and camera than paint??

Not ideal and probably a little costly but you get the out come you want.

[rhinosm]

ARB have said (via a distributor) that they have no plans to support front cameras in their D4 bull bars.
From what I can tell neither OL nor Tuff support them either.
Does anyone know of a bull bar to suit a 2016 D4 which will support front parking sensors and cameras please?
By cameras, do you mean, Adaptive Cruise Control.
I have ARB bar on 2016 D4 which has parking sensor holes, with plugs.
You can just make them out in photo.
ACC works fine, as long as number plate is mounted low enough, but they won't guarantee that. Mine works.

[Disco4Dave]

By cameras, do you mean, Adaptive Cruise Control.
I have ARB bar on 2016 D4 which has parking sensor holes, with plugs.
You can just make them out in photo.
ACC works fine, as long as number plate is mounted low enough, but they won't guarantee that. Mine works.

No not ACC, I have the surround cameras, with 2 in the corners of front bar, 2 in the mirrors and the other near the rear number plate.

Refitting the front cameras myself to a bull bar is an option, but I was warned by the ARB distributor that any modifications to the bull bar this would probably void any warranty.

[Tombie]

Well that’s a year so why worry.

[Disco4Dave]

Well that’s a year so why worry.

Good point

[Knick007]

Hi
I'm finally in a position to upgrade my (technically my family's) Discovery 4. It's a 2009 model HSE with front parking sensors (I take it that part is important)

I upgraded the tyres last year. My long term plan is

1. Bullbar

2. UHF

3. Winch

4. Snorkel


I have a little 4x4 experience but I want to learn more once I actually have a car to do it in.

Since this is the bullbar thread I guess I'm after recommendations on a bull bar that will allow my front parking sensors to continue to work, and probably would allow me to install a winch. If this doesn't have to be installed when I get a bullbar installed that'd be ideal (so I can possibly buy a second hand winch).

At the moment I am looking at Opposite lock as it seems they make front parking sensor compatible bulbars?



Thanks