Ford Ranger

**TerryO** · 2nd February 2015, 09:00 PM

You know what Frantic I could spend more time reading your latest posts on this but I can kind of guess where your going with it and if it makes you feel better then I'm happy to say you could be right and those certifying engineers who wrote the article that I cut and pasted the information from might be wrong.

Really there is no point trying to prove anything to me, because as you know I was only quoting their document, I'm not the engineer who wrote that document on GCM. So how about instead of wasting your breath why not just go straight to the source and ring / email those vehicle modification certifying engineers at Statewide4x4 and then you can tell them directly they have no idea about what they are talking about.

I look forward to reading all about your conversation with them. I'm sure it will be interesting.

Would you like me to find their phone number and email for you?

**33chinacars** · 4th February 2015, 06:24 PM

Thanks everybody for their informative and interesting replies. A lot of food for thought. Certainly didn't set out to cause any arguments let a loan the heated discussion that my question has generated.

Might just buy a big Chev instead

Gary

**frantic** · 11th February 2015, 06:02 PM

This should be the Final post on this subject about payload.

The "engineers" in your first link where wrong terry-O, whether by accident or on purpose to generate more business, I don't know or speculate

. But as an insurance company, having an "expert" get up and double the weight of a towball load making the vehicle illegal in the "experts" opinion could possibly be beneficial in reducing payouts, but that's just speculation.
You have had several point this out including your own second link with who you've chosen to argue with or ignore.
Now I have it from the RMS directly. Or are they not qualified enough ?
now with a rear axle load max of 1850, even with 300-350 ball mass, and a, at worst, 50:50 ute weight split(most are more nose heavy so around 60:40 front to rear) it leaves over 350kg for that axle and a payload of 300kg.

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That's correct, it's all on the axle weights.

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To: Technical Enquiries
Subject: RE: Payload on a ranger wildtrack with a 3.5ton trailer.

Thanks for the quick reply.
I just want to confirm in basic terms.
If the 2.2 ton ranger plus the 3.5 ton trailer (ATM )with a total combined weigh of 5.7ton , then given the Rangers GCM of 6 tons would leave a 300kg capacity in the Rangers payload with the trailer attached , as long as the individual axle weights where not exceeded.
Is this correct?

Thanks again, Matthew.

From: Technical.Enquiries@rms.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:55:48 +1100
Subject: RE: Payload on a ranger wildtrack with a 3.5ton trailer.

Matthew,

The RMS do not enforce ball weight, this is a towbar manufacturers recommendation.

We would weigh the mass transmitted through the axles of the vehicle and trailer when joined together, if the trailer ATM or vehicle GVM is in excess of the manufacturers stated requirements the vehicle would be in breach and not legal.

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From: Matthew XXXXXX
Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2015 4:59 PM
To: Technical Enquiries
Subject: Payload on a ranger wildtrack with a 3.5ton trailer.

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I am Currently having a discussion on payload of a current model ranger wildtrack after attaching a 3.5ton trailer. I believe that as gcm is 6ton and trailer, 3150kg ( subtract the 350kg on towball) plus 2550kg ranger(2200+350towball) gives 5700 leaving 300kg payload. Another person is deducting ball weight twice.
Could you please help with a written reply.
Thanks, Matthew.

**ramblingboy42** · 11th February 2015, 06:33 PM

Actually I'm finding it terribly boring......yawn....

I thought we were discussing Ford Rangers.

**frantic** · 11th February 2015, 10:10 PM

So did I but I guess some people like to bury a mistake rather than admit it.

Look there's an entire new section just for rangers due to the flood of posts and threads in general chat

Oops one thread, a few weeks old with written proof asked for and delivered.

One further mistake, Thailand, the place of the rangers manufacturing plant is in Asia not Oceania, or maybe the world map is also wrong?

**Redback** · 12th February 2015, 11:30 AM

Something that may help

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AND for laughs

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152534169916229

Baz.

**Vern** · 12th February 2015, 01:28 PM

Well I was right, I did think the ranger was a slug compared to the amarok.

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