That engine and auto 'box is a cracker!Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
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That engine and auto 'box is a cracker!Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
Update; so today we decided to go look at the disco 5 at our local dealership.
Cut long story short; i dont like it, Mrs doesn't like it either. Its a shame cause I've got a soft spot for the d4 and in my opinion the d5 is possibly a step forwards in luxury and "fancyness" but a step backwards in practicality in my opinion. I have concerns over the new engines and am not really keen on buying a new realesed model as they still have to go through their "teething" period before all the issues are completely ironed out. The SE model with the extras i wanted would be $85k drive away.
So where does that leave me? Easy, i went and put pen to paper on the Patrol. We bought a my18 series 4 with tow kit, tinted front windows and extended warranty for 75k drive away. We get it next saturday hopefully.
So how did we land at our decision? Well after nissan abolished the 4.2TD in 2006 i never considered a patrol again, that was until my boss mentioned it. Then after some research it slowly started to grow on me. Seems to have no reliablity issues at all, I've contacted some guys through FB that have heavily modifeld vehicles and use them hard and they report them to be rock solid. The drive train is unbreakable. The SPACE, we simply can't get over how roomy it is. Its almost limo size in the second row and with the 3rd row down the boot is huge. Although the third seats dont fold completely flat its not by any means a deal breaker. The amount of car for the price is amazing. Its extremely comfortable and has more than enough mod cons to keep me wondering what everything does. I've left the best to last, that amazing engine! According to all source's its bullet proof and the sound it makes is intimidating. The 110 always put a smile on my face and this thing puts a smile on my face becuase I've got 400hp under my right foot and it goes! Fuel usage doesnt concern me at all as i get fuel through work and the same people that usually complain about fuel are also the same ones that blow money on smokes, at the TAB, or on **** i couldn't give a **** about fuel use. Besides i dont consider 12ltrs per 100km on the highway bad at all and 16-17 around town for a 2.7 ton truck is acceptable to me.
During this search for a new family wagon i thought I'd end up with a pajero, at least i was convinced until thr mrs said she hated it, too much plastic and cheap looking.
The patrol only cost 6k more than a top of the range pajero exceed and its a lot more car for your dollar.
Now some of you will say the d5 is better offroad blah blah blah and your probably right, but the patrol will easily get me to camp, get me back and when i floor it put a smile on my face that no other wagon can offer. Its also a lot bigger which we like.
In the meantime i still have the 110 to drive till it sells but im going to miss its slow progressive nature and sense of invincibility. The patrol doesnt have the character of the 110 and it never will; its a machine and the 110 is more like a mate.
To new pastures......
Hmm. I saw ( and heard! ) one go hard from the lights just today, and intended to pop in here to say; WOW!Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando
Mate, i dying for the day i get a 200 series next to me [emoji16][emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by johntins
Say WHAT?? No wonder people fear the Dark Side. That thing is evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinc
They do sound great, I thought I heard one gunning it the other day but when I turned my head I saw an L322 rapidly disappear.
One of the sadest things out of all this is that LR has lost me as a customer. I love the defender and what it stands for, the d4 seemed like a great compromise between the rough stuff and the family but the d5 is in my opinion more range rover than discovery. I dont know what the new defender will be like, i hope its great...but if it isnt i don't think I'll be having a landy in my driveway any time soon. Its sad that loyal LR customers have been left out in the open, not listened to and made to feel like their opinion doesnt matter. The LR slogan of "above and beyond" died with the puma and the d4 and whilst there is promise of a new defender there is no guarantee it will be any good.
I hope LR is listening and reading these forums;
LR you had your chance to get me to stay loyal and i would have but your vehicles are so far from their original origins and what the brand stood for that I'm now going to the dark side.
On a side note (please note this is strictly my opinion); there was a thread in reagrds to the d5 and how good it was blah blah blah. I haven't owned a d4 or a d5, but man did LR **** up the discovery brand by replacing it with the d5. The d5 is a shopping trolley and a glorified mini range rover. Its not my cup of tea! If its your cup of tea i appologise but its my opinion.
The other issue with the D5,yes i know we could go on for ever:zzz::zzz:
And a bit off topic in this thread
Is the lack of aftermarket accessories.
And it looks like ARB,as an example, have no interest in producing any for the D5.
This will not help sales.
And back on topic,how often are the services for the Y62?
The LC200 petrol and diesel, is every 6months or 10000k,which is way below industry standard and inconvenient,particularly for high mileage vehicles.
I imagine that you aren't on your own. To be fair to LR, it needs to be remembered that without the ownership of Ford, BMW, and now Tata, LR would be dead. Tata is the only mob who seem to be making any money out of LR. I hate it as much as you, but maybe, just maybe, Tata are getting the LR brand back on track financially before doing something closer to their roots. Seems to be working with Jaguar. Fingers crossed..Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando
I don't blame you for your choice, and hope you enjoy the hideous POS!!! ( Kidding, sorta )