Thread: Toyota to replace the V8

Originally Posted by Geedublya

Well you continue to sprout **** so i'll call it out when I see it.

Mate you are off the chain. Have you been wearing your rose coloured glasses during every ZF 6 speed thread on this site? Did you read the posts above other than mine before your little rant?

The general consensus on this forum is that when buying a LR with 6 speed ZF is to set aside a healthy budget for an auto replacement (Just like with a D2 V8 I wouldn't buy one without setting aside some green stuff for head gaskets, ARP head studs, new radiator and an inline thermostat, or with TD5 replacing plastic head pins if the motor has them, new injector lume etc).
Cheers

Originally Posted by Geedublya

Well you continue to sprout **** so i'll call it out when I see it.

If you look back through the posts 98% of people with problems had them due to lack of servicing. 100K is sometimes too late for a service 40-50K is the max I would recommend. The auto transmission specialist I use recommends 20K (I think that is over servicing) and has seen over 800k kms from ZF boxes.

I see you have added a bit more than a rant. Which ZF's have done over 800k? Bet it's not 6 speed in D3 or 4.

Again read some of the comments above. Read more widely. Go and talk to.workshops that have to deal with them. It is a notorious problem. Now the 8 speed is a different beast.

Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

Mate you are off the chain. Have you been wearing your rose coloured glasses during every ZF 6 speed thread on this site? Did you read the posts above other than mine before your little rant?

OK find me some examples of a ZF 6HP26 that has failed with servicing every 40-50K and you may have a point but judging by your past abilities to read posts I doubt you can.

Originally Posted by Geedublya

OK find me some examples of a ZF 6HP26 that has failed with servicing every 40-50K and you may have a point but judging by your past abilities to read posts I doubt you can.

Mate I have better things to do with my time. It's your baby. Peace out.

I was talking to the ZF workshop in Sydney who do the rebuilds, about frequency of failure of 6hp26, including the Ford 6R80 equivalent. There was a huge range in terms of km done at time of failure, eg a taxi on original box had done close to 1 million km.

Originally Posted by rar110

I was talking to the ZF workshop in Sydney who do the rebuilds, about frequency of failure of 6hp26, including the Ford 6R80 equivalent. There was a huge range in terms of km done at time of failure, eg a taxi on original box had done close to 1 million km.

Yes mate. No doubt. The taxi however is what 1 to 1.5 tonne lighter than D3/4 And not towing. Also the stock Barra motor whilst torquey did not produce at low revs what the 2.7 and 3.0 TD produces. Horses for courses. The 6 speed ZF would be fine in a Falcon. Cheers

Look bottom line is people can ask around and read up on this site and make up their own mind. I have had mates and wheeled with and in D3 and D4 and they are great vehicles in terms of capability and strength of body and chassis and ride quality on the highway and high speed dirt. However second hand potential purchasers (ie purchasing where the cosetting 40k to 50k servicing of the auto referred to above (Also take into account tbr costs of same especially with the not exactly cheap fluid) was likely never done, need to be eyes wide open to likelihood of trans failure at an early stage and the possibility, albeit less likely, of catastrophic TD engine failure in both 2.7 and 3.0 guise (costs of that are huge. Auto replacement cheaper circa $7k depending on where done). As long as you do the maths and are happy with the risks all good. It's not a vehicle to buy without a decent risk analysis and piggy bank.

Cheers