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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    A cursory look at information on this suggests that attempts to patent it over the past 25 years in the USA have run into the problem that the US Patent Office requires a working model for any patent that appears to violate the laws of thermodynamics and the law of conservation of mass-energy. Since providing a working model has apparently proved impossible, I leave you to draw your own conclusions.

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    mmmmmm! sounds much like the infamous hyclone whatever it was _ take one old tuna tin fashion it into a mad design and it will make your car perform like a show pony

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    Ah! A twenty-first century Pogue carburetor.
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    I'm still working to perfect the Zep Cell, which will enable private vehicles and public infrastructure to be powered by the surplus energy of John Bonham's legendary drum solo on 'Whole lotta Love' at Madison Square Gardens in 1974. My kombi is currently using a prototype of the Zep Cell and is showing promising results, although at the moment it is limited to downhill trips only. If I can get enough passengers on board with properly aligned chakras and we all believe hard enough, I think it has real potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    I'm still working to perfect the Zep Cell, which will enable private vehicles and public infrastructure to be powered by the surplus energy of John Bonham's legendary drum solo on 'Whole lotta Love' at Madison Square Gardens in 1974. My kombi is currently using a prototype of the Zep Cell and is showing promising results, although at the moment it is limited to downhill trips only. If I can get enough passengers on board with properly aligned chakras and we all believe hard enough, I think it has real potential.
    Looks like your on a winner there. If you can replicate the anti gravity claims of the Joe cell you will be able to go up hill as well.
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    ROFLMAO

    Keep it coming, I havn't laughed so hard in ages

    I have to say, you ever heard of the term "Smoke and mirrors" ?

    You cant believe everything you read or see on the net.

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    Joe cells & Browns gas generators are all a load of Bollocks!!

    Einstien has never been proven wrong. Even the enormous energy produced by relativly small amounts of matter in fission or fusion reactions can be calculated & accounted for using his equations. Mind you, you can make a lot of money selling the 'Secret' of how to do this at room temperature!
    Given that all forms of energy production introduce losses, either from thermal, friction etc, you can [B]never get more energy out than you put in.

    What we should be looking at is how to get more 'bang for the buck' from our current technology & there are many devious ways of achieving this, often with Govt backing.

    For instance, I have installed solar hot water & halved my power bill.
    I did this wih the Govt rebate & RECS scheme & payed remainder off interest free over 12months. Living in Qld I have never seen the electric booster cut in.
    I also used the water tank rebate scheme to get a nearly free 3000L water tank with pump installed, so my council rates are now much lower.
    I have three vegy gardens plus a variety of citrus & fruit trees & produce most of our requirements at minimal cost.
    I have resisted going solar electric as I believe it is not viable. Currently you receive 44c/KW input for solar to the grid. This is unsustanable & will only drive up prices for everyone in the short term. Those who installed these expensive solar generators will find that the input prices will dramatically drop in the future, and they will be left with a system that produces electricity when they are not home to actually get the benefit. Early morning & late afternoon/night you are using 100% power from ulility, as none of these systems has battery storage.

    Cheers..B

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser69 View Post
    Joe cells & Browns gas generators are all a load of Bollocks!!
    Joe cells is a load of bollocks, Browns Gas is something quite different, produced by a different method ( still electrolysis) and has and is being used in industrial applications, generation of browns gas and running a car on it, well that is rubbish.

    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser69 View Post
    Einstien has never been proven wrong.
    but he has never been proven correct either. thats why we have Newtons Law and Einstein's theory.


    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser69 View Post
    Even the enormous energy produced by relativly small amounts of matter in fission or fusion reactions can be calculated & accounted for using his equasions. Mind you, you can make a lot of money selling the 'Secret' of how to do this at room temperature!
    Given that all forms of energy production introduce losses, either from thermal, friction etc, you can [B]never get more energy out than you put in.
    actually the energy or product you get out exactly equals the energy or product put in. BUT the energy and or product you get out may not all be in a form that is usable or desirable. you mention friction, the energy used to over come the friction is energy produced just because it never makes it to the back wheels dint mean that it is losed its Just not where we want it, IE at the back wheels.
    Dr Diesel started out from a theoretical point. his first Diesel motors were made of Glass, the idea being that glass will not retain or rob the combustion process of energy like steel. good in theory but all he produced at that stage was a glass grenade. but today we use alloys aluminum and ceramics for basically the same reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser69 View Post
    we should be looking at is how to get more 'bang for the buck' from our current technology & there are many devious ways of achieving this, often with Govt backing.

    For instance, I have installed solar hot water & halved my power bill.
    I did this wih the Govt rebate & RECS scheme & payed remainder off interest free over 12months. Living in Qld I have never seen the electric booster cut in.
    I also used the water tank rebate scheme to get a nearly free 3000L water tank with pump installed, so my council rates are now much lower.
    I have three vegy gardens plus a variety of citrus & fruit trees & produce most of our requirements at minimal cost.
    I have resisted going solar electric as I believe it is not viable. Currently you receive 44c/KW input for solar to the grid. This is unsustanable & will only drive up prices for everyone in the short term. Those who installed these expensive solar generators will find that the input prices will dramatically drop in the future, and they will be left with a system that produces electricity when they are not home to actually get the benefit. Early morning & late afternoon/night you are using 100% power from ulility, as none of these systems has battery storage.

    Cheers..B
    so true

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    i want a glass diesel now .....sounds fun!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    i want a glass diesel now .....sounds fun!!
    lol start to play with one of then and you will end up feeding the fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruiser69 View Post
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    I have resisted going solar electric as I believe it is not viable. Currently you receive 44c/KW input for solar to the grid. This is unsustanable & will only drive up prices for everyone in the short term. ....
    Cheers..B
    NSW electricity prices went up by an average 20% at the beginning of the month - a trivial amount compared to the amount they will go up when the government's ETS is introduced. I don't know where you get the future drop in prices!

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