Thread: Desalination pump

of course water has a memory.

whenever I take some out of a container and put it in others it will always find its way to the same place in the same containers.

try it yourself at home.

In reading the promo for Adelaide's new desal plant, I was interested about what they put back into the water after the RO process. Basically the "pure" water is very corrosive to iron water mains, so they add some of the calcium salts that make "hard" water and hey presto, the water mains are as safe as if they had normal Murray river water in them.

The only thing water "remembers" ( = has electrochemical potential for) is that it has a "desire" to dissolve anything in its path, it's not satiated until it has a full load of salts and stuff mixed with it. Just think how much less trouble the flood waters would be if they only "remembered" their clean rain water heritage instead of the paddocks they have ravaged.

A mates engineering works used to do some fancy TIG welding for a guy who made solar powered desalinators for yachts. They welded an expanded metal mesh to rods to make cathodes and anodes. The material was platinumized titanium and was feather light, looked like a matt finish stainless steel, and was expensive enough to keep in the office safe. They lost the work as the gadgets were so expensive, being made one-off against order by the inventor, that sales were insufficient to continue. The guy lived on a boat at Manly Marina and had no money and no assets, just ideas. This was 20+ years ago.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

of course water has a memory.

whenever I take some out of a container and put it in others it will always find its way to the same place in the same containers.

try it yourself at home.

The water in the containers in my fridge suffer from the "Houdini" effect....
Every time I fill them and go back 2 hours later to enjoy a nice cold glass, magically it's disappeared again! However I do find half full cups all over the house coincidentally aligning themselves with the last known positions of the kids.....


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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Sorry, but that is complete BS. Despite what the homeopaths would have you believe.

What has a Homeopath got to do with anything???

This is info that was given by the manufacturors of pumps and RO equipment.

Look at water softening units on the market. The work on an ion-exchange principle. You can't take something from the water, without adding something to compensate.... In most instances - salt. If you don't add something yourself, the water will take what it can, from wherever it can.

That being said though, your over the couter RO units probably won't strip the water down that harshly anyway.

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

What has a Homeopath got to do with anything???

This is info that was given by the manufacturors of pumps and RO equipment.

Look at water softening units on the market. The work on an ion-exchange principle. You can't take something from the water, without adding something to compensate.... In most instances - salt. If you don't add something yourself, the water will take what it can, from wherever it can.

This is what homeopathy has to do with it. [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory"]Water memory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

What you are talking about is nothing to do with the "memory" of water (which is a load of BS believed by the loonie fringe).

Water is a solvent, termed the universal solvent. Like all solvents, the higher its purity (or the lower the concentration of the contaminant) the more readily it dissolve other substances/contaminants. Water is highly polar as mentioned by Steve above.

What you describe is not some magic "memory" it is basic solvent chemistry.

There have been reports that drinking RO or distilled water will deplete calcium, sodium and magnesium in your body, however I cannot remember finding anything conclusive in the literature. Many bottled waters sold in many parts of the world are basically RO/distilled water. However - I am not saying that drinkking RO water long term is a good idea and would be healthy. We get a lot of minerals from water. However - just as large scale desal plants condition water for transport and human consumption, you could so the same using desal water from a small scale (e.g. calcium/sodium/magnesium tablets).

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

What has a Homeopath got to do with anything???

This is info that was given by the manufacturors of pumps and RO equipment.

Look at water softening units on the market. The work on an ion-exchange principle. You can't take something from the water, without adding something to compensate.... In most instances - salt. If you don't add something yourself, the water will take what it can, from wherever it can.

That is nothing to do with water having a memory. That idea is just rubbish. In certain circumstances certain additives have to be added to desalinated or de ionised and even filtered water to make it safe and useable for human consumption or other uses that is all. We used desalination plants at Ravey and there were no added chemicals other than a little chlorine, which is added to normal water supplies anyway and no ill effects.
I can assure you it is pretty fanciful to think water will try and take back salt, however salt is conveyed in urine to dispose of it that is all.

Ok, I concede and apologise.

It would seem that the term "memory effect" has been used incorrectly, to describe the aggressive nature of water that has been overcleaned.

It has been taught this way in various fluid tech workshops I have attended over the years, however has no connetion to the homeopathic references posted. Probably an attempt at describing it in "laymans terms" that went wrong, or lost in translation.

Thanks for the link.