Thread: Scarey camping

Originally Posted by Savanahkelpy

Yesterday, i went back to a camping/fishing spot, that i was last at over easter,,(see "bad camping ethics"), in hope of catching another fish or 2, to top off the last week of my holiday. little did i know that i would have to cut it short, this morning, in fear of my safety, and finaly ending up in the local plods office,( ). No, i wasn,t in trouble, just stumbled on a drug crop, while it was being watered. . Never has walking away from a situation, in the bush, quietly and quickly, been such a difficult thing to do, as every step sounded like thunder, in my ears.
When you see one person, (grower or crop minder), you don,t know if they are alone or not, whether they are armed or not, or what their state of mind is like.
Had the shakes by the time i got back on to the main road.
Laurie.

I would like to congratulate you on doing the right thing and reporting you find, a lot of people in that situation wouldn't have because they were either to scared to or just didn't want to get involved. Good onya if there were more people like you this country would be an even better place.

Originally Posted by Savanahkelpy

I will say, that all said and done, i,m safe, i get to fish and camp another day, maybe/ most probably at other places, but its unwanted hazard of being a bushy and the search for good fishing holes. I figure i,ve done all i could and whether you trust the police or not, its now in their hands. I gave all needed information in my posession, and its now up to them to make connections and take any action.
Laurie.
Looks like i,ll have to search upstream, now,,, for fishing spots, that is,,,,had enough of anything else!!

Thing that annoys me about this whole saga and so many others like it is that tow rags (read that as gangs) have effectively spoiled access to the great outdoors.

We have the same kind of problem here where it is now quite dangerous to venture too far off the beaten track and some gangs have even taken to hijacking people in the bush and robbing them

Alan

Originally Posted by disco2hse

Thing that annoys me about this whole saga and so many others like it is that tow rags (read that as gangs) have effectively spoiled access to the great outdoors.

We have the same kind of problem here where it is now quite dangerous to venture too far off the beaten track and some gangs have even taken to hijacking people in the bush and robbing them

Alan

Yer those sheep can be pretty nasty if you rub them the wrong way

Originally Posted by Binford

This is why I can't understand the "logic" of making firearms illegal. Illegal or not, the drug guy almost certainly has a gun, but because you're a law-abiding citizen, you can't?! Makes no sense at all.
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The logic, whether or not you agree with it, is that since the drug guy can be pretty certain you are not armed, even if he is, he is unlikely to attack you, even if you confront him - if he disposes of you, he does not know how many other people know where you are, and the last thing he wants is an official search of the area. If he is armed, and as you say, it is quite possible, it is for the purpose primarily of frightening off competitors who may try to take over his business, or to frighten off innocents. If he frightens you off, there is a reasonable chance that you are so scared you won't go to the police (or he has already bought them). If he kills you there is a high probability of a major search, which is certain to involve people he has not bought, and equally certain to find his plantation. On the other hand, if he knows you are likely to be armed, he is much more likely to shoot first and take the risks.

While some murders of insiders in the drug business may not attract enthusiastic policing, murder of uninvolved people, as with the antidrug campaigner whose name escapes me at Griffith, is almost certain to attract vigorous policing, which in that case closed down the area as a place for drug supply, at least for a number of years.

John

always assume some growing herbs will be stoned 99% of the time, so any thing could happen

Originally Posted by Binford

This is why I can't understand the "logic" of making firearms illegal. Illegal or not, the drug guy almost certainly has a gun, but because you're a law-abiding citizen, you can't?! Makes no sense at all.

I feel blessed to live in a state where I can get a permit to carry a concealed handgun. And I almost always have it on me when I'm out in public. Not that I'd go charging in with my gun out (I would have done precisely the same thing you did), but at least I'd have had a fighting chance to get out of there if I'd been spotted and cornered.

You NEVER expected to run into such danger, did ya, Savanahkelpy? Well that's the funny thing about danger like that! One never knows when to expect it. That's simply the reason I take full advantage of my rights to carry a pistol. I wish you good folks down there could as well....

Stay safe, guys....

Not wanting to turn this into a gun/anti-gun discussion, but I think that if everyone was "packing", the likelyhood of someone getting hurt would be much higher. ( for many reasons).

Thanks for your concern, but I don't want to see this turn into a country where every camper in the bush needs to pack a weapon thanks. It wouldn't be the same.

couple of years ago me a mate wnet exploring on motorbikes for some old mine sites that showed up on the AUSLIG maps, just for a day out.
we followed a track and came upon an house with a fresh fire - really remote in the scrub.

we turned around after she said thats where the murderers live!

I told the story to a mate a while later and he sincerely told me not to go exploring in the bush like that again!

Its great fun following old tracks but like others said, it has ruined the honest peoples day out

Oh well,

Hay Ewe

Originally Posted by JDNSW

....... as with the antidrug campaigner whose name escapes me at Griffith......

John

Hey JD

Does the name Donald Mackay ring a bell ...