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    Cooling system problem diagnosis

    the old classic has just started to overheat. Checked the fluids and no leaks, all hoses and clamps good. replaced thermostat and flushed radiator and block and she is still getting hot. Now I am thinking the water pump has packed it in as I cannot see what else could cause this sudden change. Is there any way of testing the water pump? Anyone with any suggestion of this or other words of wisedom would be appreciated.

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    Flushing the rad doesn't cut the mustard, rodding it is recommended. This means taking the tanks off and will cost around $100 to get done. Also a collection of insects or grass bits can reach critical mass and block the air flow. Typical in late spring.

    Some water pumps will lose bits off their impellers, but it is rare and you would see lumps of corrosion in the radiator cores during cleaning.

    With the thermostat out the water pump should empty a bucket in seconds. Should be easy to do while the rad is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Flushing the rad doesn't cut the mustard, rodding it is recommended.
    I'm with you on this one bee utey. Anything less is pointless.

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    Water pump is a looooooooooooong shot.
    Radiator is a shrt sht.
    RRC rads are notorious for clogging as their tubes are small and numerous.
    Have it rodded before doing anything else, and my bet is that you will not have to do anything else.
    Regards Philip A

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    mate ..with experience i can say... just cut out the end result and go and get the head properly tested buy someone that really knows what there on about ...will save you a lot of grief and money .....

    cheers

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    Thanks for your comments, but I think I have found the source of the problem. The fan is free wheeling when I have the engine off. I am sure that it only moved with the stroke of the engine previously. I can spin the fan easily and it's quite wobbly. Any thoughts?

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    Get a new viscous fan centre.
    This will cause overheating only at slow speeds say under 50Kmh. If teh car is overheating on the highway then the problem is more likely to be the radiator. It could of course be both.
    If the temp gauge rises you should hear and feel the viscous fan roar and affect engine power as it stiffens, so if your gauge is at 3/4 , then there should be quite a noise from the fan.
    Regards Philip A

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    Thanks, PhillipA

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    Are you sure the temp gauge is accurate? I thought my RRC was overheating, but infact, the temp sender was 20 degrees off (I have an aftermarket gauge, as the original packed it in too).

    Get an infrared thermometer and check what temp it's running at, save you alot of headaches if it is infact, not overheating.

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    Leaking somewhere ?

    FWIW,

    Maybe not too much, but may as well try and confuse you even more....

    - My 94 Vogue developed a slight rise in average running temp recently, tiny really, about 1/2 a needle-width, but it niggled at me....

    Shrt story is, I discovered that my black plastic header tank had a tiny seam-leak at the back.... enough to slowly get worse and worse to the point of losing most of the coolant from it in one stop.

    I thought I'd be smart and fix it with "Q-Bond" and indeed I did... on the seam, but there was an area in front that looked like the plastic was breaking down... Seems that this is the site of the SECOND leak.

    Took the easy way out today, bought a new tank (clearish/yellow plastic)

    So, look for tiny leaks or even bigger leaks.

    A UV LED torch is very useful at night.

    Cheers,

    James in Perth.

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