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    Part Number 614816 Needed - Stub Shaft for Water Pump with Aircon

    As part of my continuing attempt to get this engine to run a bit cooler, I want to try and put back the plastic fan and viscous clutch that someone took off.

    It's a 1983 Rangie with aircon, and what somebody did was to take off the original fan, viscous, and adaptor, and put on a metal fan. I thought this would be okay but the metal fan just doesn't seem up to it - the blades taper towards the ends, unlike the plastic fan, where the blades get wider.

    It seems okay on the highway, but driving around town, without stopping, the temperature gets up to 90c-95c, and as far as I'm concerned that's just too hot for this northern climate.

    I've already got another viscous and fan, but typically it's just this rare and unheard-of 614816 adaptor that I need. Does anyone have one?
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    Do you have a pic of it? It's a bit hard to visualise what you mean

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    Pardon me - I completely forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

    Man, I hate putting photos on here. What a headache.

    Anyway, after much research I think I may be better off with Falcon thermos, though I won't have much choice if I can't get this adaptor! Of course, if I had a lathe there would be no problem making or adapting something . . . as usual.
    Last edited by Davo; 24th February 2011 at 01:51 PM. Reason: Picture didn't quite turn out right. Where's my hammer.
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    Looks I didn't quite use the right linky thingy. Maybe this will work.

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    with the proper coolant mix, I'd have thought 90-95 degC was quite efficient.

    The red OAT stuff (e.g GMH Coolant for the LS series V8) has excellent corrosion resistance at 50% dilution and under a 15 psi cap, a 50% won't boil until you get to 130 deg C.

    At 90-95 deg C the engine is running more efficiently, more mpg and produces more power than at a lower temp. I wouldn't be overly concerned at all. Do you know what the specs are for your thermostat?

    cheers
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    Edit. FWIW on a 39 deg C Bris day with aircon flat out I've put a thermocouple in the coolant for my Thor 4.6. It maintains 90-91 deg C and the gauge is about a needle width above the middle. Towing 800kg of camper through sand beside the Peninsular Dev Rd late last year in 3rd gear and aircon on (37 deg outside) it stayed around the middle. Original viscous fan.

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    Hi, Thanks for the pic...........I'm pretty sure I have one of those lying around somewhere, or failing that a different water pump to take the later fan

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    Thanks for that, I'd appreciate you looking. I don't think another water pump would work, though, since only the four stud, (with this adaptor), will take the double pulley.

    I know 90-95 is about right for efficiency but it's the jump from 80-something on the highway, (though that's only a short run on the highway - I haven't been game to go too far yet), up 10 or 15 degrees when running around town that's had me worried. I'm in a tiny town in the Kimberley and this isn't even the hottest time of the year.

    I've put in a lovely new tropicore radiator, new hoses, Tectaloy 90 Plus coolant, (because I can get it), bypassed the heater, (to try and keep some heat out of the cabin and to remove another possible leak), and had enormous fun with a brand-new genuine thermostat that, as it turned out, didn't quite open far enough. Another genuine one that does open fully made a big difference.

    The standard gauge was also well past the middle the last time I had it working, though of course it may need a new sender. I also have a capillary gauge and a Watchdog TM2, both of which show about the same temps.

    And I also cut four 54mm holes in either side of the bonnet, (which really does help), and wired the aircon fans with a switch on the dash so that I can run them on their own, (this doesn't make much of a difference to running temps, but does help with hot starting).

    Anyway, thanks for your replies!
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    Man, I hate putting photos on here. What a headache.
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    Ha - you've just got the natural ability. And over 16,000 posts. Who can compete with that?

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    You like making it hard for yourself.

    It can be a simple 4-step process. Look at the Manage Attachments button below the text area.

    1. Click it
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