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    Swivel hub drama's with the preload

    Hi Guys,
    I have had a tyre shake at certain speeds. So I have removed shims to give it more preload and it has fixed the problem in the past. But I decide to rebuild my swivel housings because of seals leaking etc etc. I have dismantled the housings and removed the old bearings. I installed new bearings and are having trouble getting enough preload on the housing. All my top shims have been removed and it is just starting to preload slightly.

    Has anybody had this problem before?
    My thoughts are the new bearings are slightly smaller in the width. The old bearings have been thrown in the bin and can't compare with new and old. I'm at the stage where I might take a light cut of the top locating pin face.

    What is your thoughts?

    P.S 86 RANGIE

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    swivel hubs

    Hi there
    Did you replace the race in which the bearing sits or only the bearings

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    If the bearings are all seated (Both cup and cone) - think shim under the cup. . There are shim packs for a LT77 layshaft (Which is how they adjust preload on the layshaft bearings - so it's a valid work around) that might be the right size. That or cut out your own.

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    Nice thinking Langy,
    Definitely a neater and quicker idea than trying to machine parts.

    In my old beaten up fender I am also running no shims (on new bearings and cups) to get just enough pre-load on both swivels. Ill be trying Langys idea next strip down!

    Steve
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    '10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)

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    Whatever method you choose remember to centralise the swivel housing over the ball, too many upper compared to lower shims or visa versa can cause the wiper seal to be too tight at one end, and not wipe efficiently at the other.

    JC
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    tebone Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Whatever method you choose remember to centralise the swivel housing over the ball, too many upper compared to lower shims or visa versa can cause the wiper seal to be too tight at one end, and not wipe efficiently at the other.

    JC
    Just looking the swivel housing, it centres itself as the bottom housing rest against the bottom tapered bearing and you use the top pin locator to pull the swivel upwards to adjust the pre load. I'm thinking the only way to centrelise it is to shim behind the outer race on the bearing. Maybe I'm wrong or confused! I will be maching the top pins today and see if it makes a difference. I have spare ones if it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tebone View Post
    Just looking the swivel housing, it centres itself as the bottom housing rest against the bottom tapered bearing and you use the top pin locator to pull the swivel upwards to adjust the pre load. I'm thinking the only way to centrelise it is to shim behind the outer race on the bearing. Maybe I'm wrong or confused! I will be maching the top pins today and see if it makes a difference. I have spare ones if it doesn't work.
    I told you that there is multiple shims each side, one centres, the other preloads, I have a genuine manual here you can use, there is no need to machine anything unless something is very amiss

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    tebone Guest
    Thanks Matt (rovercare),
    The bottom locator pin doesn't press against the tapered bearing it just fits in the centre of the bearing which makes the housing sit central on the bottom, so shim or no shim on the bottom it wouldn't make any difference on the preload. The actual bottom housing presses against the bearing when the top locator is done up. I have read the manual and it shows a shim on the bottom but mine didn't have them. Anyway I took a .3mm cut off the top locator face and now it has heaps of preload. I think I was supplied slighty thinner bearings than original.
    As you know Matt I have been wrong in the passed!

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