Thread: School me on EAS Airbag Replacement?

Take a look at this thread from when I replaced the airbags on my L322 RR.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread...29#post1586929

It is a pretty easy job. See page 3 of that thread for where I ordered my replacement airbags and the costs.

On a '93 it should be an even easier job as there is probably less computer stuff to worry about.

Cheers
David

depends on how you wish to go, you can buy whole units, or just the bag.

Myself on my 94 classic I have just bought the bags from airbag man in Queensland and had a bit of fun getting them on but have been fine, can't tell the difference from the OEM.

I have heard unhappy things about the arnot gen 3's in terms of loosing supple ride quality, but if you want longer bags they might be the go at the higher price.

There's heaps of info on the forum about people swapping them and results.

heck I just had a quick look online, you can get the bags fairly cheap and whole assembled air springs for under 100 uk quid, I wouldn't be bothering to put bags on myself!

See: Air Spring Replacement

My procedure is shown there.

Gee those bags look frail ..... I bet they get staked easy too.

If they used pumps and accumulators for the brakes, why didn't they just use self levelling hydraulics for the suspension .... (you know like Citroen, Big Mercs, Roll's etc... for decades). The patent on the hydraulic systems would have been well gone decades ago given they have been used since 1955 in production citroens

seeya,
Shane L.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Gee those bags look frail ..... I bet they get staked easy too.

If they used pumps and accumulators for the brakes, why didn't they just use self levelling hydraulics for the suspension .... (you know like Citroen, Big Mercs, Roll's etc... for decades). The patent on the hydraulic systems would have been well gone decades ago given they have been used since 1955 in production citroens

seeya,
Shane L.

Honestly air is simpler and better. Toyota used hydraulics in the 100 series, but height control is limited to about 2 inches and it's self-levelling abilities are limited. The classic rangies have about 130mm of height adjustment and the spring rate gets lower as you get higher.

As for off-road damage. I'll let you know. But I don't expect any trouble, it would be a freak shot with a sharp stick to get one.

Originally Posted by jsp

depends on how you wish to go, you can buy whole units, or just the bag.

Myself on my 94 classic I have just bought the bags from airbag man in Queensland and had a bit of fun getting them on but have been fine, can't tell the difference from the OEM.

I have heard unhappy things about the arnot gen 3's in terms of loosing supple ride quality, but if you want longer bags they might be the go at the higher price.

There's heaps of info on the forum about people swapping them and results.

heck I just had a quick look online, you can get the bags fairly cheap and whole assembled air springs for under 100 uk quid, I wouldn't be bothering to put bags on myself!

I think freight alone is a reason to get the bags instead of the whole units. Not to mention I'll get a spare bag or two. I'm usually a great beleiver in the factory parts being better thought out than most aftermarket replacements. Cone angles etc on the aftermarket ones could be a reason for the ride complaints.

I see the B name on these ones. That I try to avoid: http://www.paddockspares.com/ntc9819...uspension.html

Some good info on the above replys, just to add the parts from us are from the same source as the original OE parts (Dunlop UK), so we have a fair bit of info on the lengths. With the Classic bags they do not have much scope to allow a longer bellows, without causing other issues, but a small increase can be had by using our standard listing for the front and a P38 rear bellows.
If anyone would like more info on these please let us know.
Regards,
Brett.

Originally Posted by Dougal

Honestly air is simpler and better. Toyota used hydraulics in the 100 series, but height control is limited to about 2 inches and it's self-levelling abilities are limited. The classic rangies have about 130mm of height adjustment and the spring rate gets lower as you get higher.

As for off-road damage. I'll let you know. But I don't expect any trouble, it would be a freak shot with a sharp stick to get one.

they didn't know how to do hydraulics then .... think of a hydraulic ram ... the articulation will be the travel of the ram.... My 1963 Citroen DS will self level to perfection every single time regardless of the load. A range rover sitting on the car trailer attached to the back of it ....... will still level perfectly! Hydraulics will lift tons ... easily all day every day. See what fork lifts to lift the tines

Eg: The perfect land rover .... built in some crazy persons shed

Rolls Royce ride quality, massive axle articulation, self leveling ....

Don't forget the steering .... high pressure diravi steering ... 2turns lock to lock. no kickback (tons of hydraulic pressure hold the wheels where pointed) ... self centering ....

A Landrover with DS suspension

Kinetic made a variation of hydraulics too ....

Kinetic Suspension System for 4WD's


Sorry, I've gone off topic here ... I just thought it quite strange to rely on a rubber bag of air in an offroad vehicle

seeya,
Shane L.