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    Quote Originally Posted by benji View Post
    I suppose everyone likes their vehicles set up differently.

    Toe in- even 1mm gives a tighter feel, but to me it's twitchy at highway speeds and doesn't sit nicely on the hwy - and it'll chew out the outside of the tires very quick. I do like a tight swivel preload though, which tightens things up.

    My 93 was prefect at .8mm toe out. Which gave perfect tire wear over 30, 000km. But that was with new bearings, shockers and tie rod ends.
    With 1mm toe-in I haven't succeeded in chewing the outside edges off tyres yet. Last set of BFG's did ~85,000km. Wearing out tyres takes so long it's really hard to judge the effect of small changes.

    My other rangie came with a new set of tyres fitted. So I can't read anything from those.

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    Booked in

    I've booked the car in at MSWT Derrimut for tomorrow.

    I just checked the owner's manual and it says:


    • Front Wheel Alignment: 1.2 to 2.44 mm toe-out
    • Camber Angle: 0 degrees
    • Castor Angle: 3 degrees
    • Swivel pin inclination: 7 degrees

    The MSWT folks will give me a print out of the settings before and after their adjustments.

    I'll let you know how I go.

    Cheers ....... paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidvii View Post
    I've booked the car in at MSWT Derrimut for tomorrow.

    I just checked the owner's manual and it says:


    • Front Wheel Alignment: 1.2 to 2.44 mm toe-out
    • Camber Angle: 0 degrees
    • Castor Angle: 3 degrees
    • Swivel pin inclination: 7 degrees

    The MSWT folks will give me a print out of the settings before and after their adjustments.

    I'll let you know how I go.

    Cheers ....... paul
    Of that lot, the only adjustment is toe. It's money for nothing for the wheel alignment guys.

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    Yep, and the other figures are still useful, telling you how accurate (?) the wheel-align equipment is... and how bent/worn & twisted is your axle and suspension bit !

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Yep, and the other figures are still useful, telling you how accurate (?) the wheel-align equipment is... and how bent/worn & twisted is your axle and suspension bit !
    Funnily enough, the only "computerised wheel alignment" my 85 has ever had was to see if the rear axle was bent.
    I turned up and was told "all done".
    Me "But what about the back axle?"
    Him "What do you mean?"
    Me "I think it's bent, what do the numbers show?"
    Him "dunno, we can't adjust it!"
    Me "4mm toe in on the rear axle".
    Him "we don't worry about it".

    From there it got worse. I told them not to change front toe and they did. They "changed" it by bending the front track-rod. Too hard to adjust apparently.

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    Quick answer

    I'm at the tyre shop?

    They are a bit phased by the land rover spec.

    Is the 1.2 to 2.4 toe out spec the Total Toe or the Half Toe for each side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidvii View Post
    I'm at the tyre shop?

    They are a bit phased by the land rover spec.

    Is the 1.2 to 2.4 toe out spec the Total Toe or the Half Toe for each side?
    Mate, run the other way. If they don't know that it's total toe they shouldn't be allowed near spanners.

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    All sorted. 1.4mm total toe.

    Now for the road test.............

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    Set Up Now

    Well that was an interesting experience at the tyre shop.

    I handed over the keys saying that I'd like the wheel alignment set to the factory spec 1.2 to 2.4 mm Toe Out.

    "Okay" they said driving the car onto the ramp.

    When it was time to pay they ran through the report proudly showing how the alignment had been set to .9mm toe in. Just like the settings in the computer database told them.

    "No" I said. I want the factory spec. Toe Out.

    Anyway to cut a long story short we agreed to aim for 1.2 mm Toe out.

    Thanks very much to Dougal for his timely response to confirm that the Specifications were for Total Toe not Half toe as the Tyre shop thought.

    Anyway, the good news is that the alignment is done. The report shows 1.2mm Toe Out. The car drives straight and the steering wheel is centred again.

    I guess there are workshops all across the country that have the wrong wheel alignment spec in their computer system database and hence the mechanics are setting up 1985 to 1993 Range Rovers with .9 mm toe in.

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    Swivel Pin Angle?

    The Wheel alignment report shows the Swivel Pin Angles to be:

    LH +17 Degrees 3'
    RH +8 Degrees 31'

    The Factory specification is for the Swivel Pin angle to be +7 Degrees.

    So is there something wrong with my Left hand reading?

    Anything to worry about?

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