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    Which is the Left ???

    Hi All,

    Ok ?.I've been having an issue with my RRC 2 Door Auto with CD175 Carbies.

    They have always run rich and I developed a misfire lack of power which I have been working through.
    After many months (rebuilding carbies) I have a vehicle that drives reasonably well, but still has a misfire and rich fuel smell and there is a noticeable sooty smoke from exhaust.

    It also suffers that sometimes it refuses to accelerate properly (flat spot) that definitely can scare the bejesus from you when pulling out on traffic or taking off from lights.

    I understand 3.5 v8's aren't the quickest motor vehicle (I've owned he for 10 years) and it's her style and basic functuality that has kept me being an enthusiast where others would have given up the ghost.
    I thought I sorted the issue as I traced it to a conversion from an auto to manual choke from previous owner that while crude did the job.

    Doing further investigation (Google is your friend) came across articles on the auto choke, and that it had a direct link to the fuel bowl when choke activated.
    Reading article it said that if the piston that shut off this link (that makes the choke operable) is not working properly then the rich fuel smell was the cause.

    I had a bright spark of an Idea and I pulled off the auto choke, and planked off where the choke goes and too it for a run to Byford last weekend.

    Here's my question:

    I've been told by people on this forum that 2,3,5 & 8 is fed by LH Carby and R H Carby feeds 1,4,6 & 7 sound silly but which carbie is the LH Side.

    I have always taken the LH Side to be the passenger side which happened to have the choke on it.

    Is that correct ?..The reason being after the run I have a vehicle that's hard to start when cold, (no choke) I still have a misfire, I still have a rich fuel smell and I removed spark plugs 2,3,5 & 8 which all had black soot around the electrode (which I believe is the reason for misfire)

    I checked number 1 spark plug which as the nice clean grayish tone and I believe if I took the other plugs out (4,6 & 7) they would be in a similar condition to number 1

    Is it a case I can't tell my left from my right and I should be looking at the other carbie as the source of the problem



    Cheers


    Baggy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggy View Post
    I have always taken the LH Side to be the passenger side
    Only on RHD cars.

    Right and left are as viewed from the driver's seat (LHD or RHD )
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    Which is Left???

    Thanks Ron,


    You are a wealth of knowledge ... so I have it Right.

    OK ..... I'll try reducing the mixture on the L H Carbie needle agian .... but I believed I had it turned (anticlickwise) as far as it would go without disenguaging from the piston.

    I'll post how I go .....

    Cheers

    Baggy

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    invest in an O2 meter and a senser, just grab one from the wreck, i think there is even a dick smith kit or ebay. makes tuning SOOOO much easyer

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    Which is Left???

    Hi All,

    Just an update.

    Adjusted needle through LH Side carbie a good half turn, took car for good drive.

    Minor misfire as you accelerate to top gear (3 speed auto) however driving in top gear it runs well and you realize how much you miss driving her.

    You look at the fuel guage and the needle does seem to dropping all too quickly .... you get home pull inside open carport switch off engine and you can still smell the fuel vapor in the air.

    Check number 2 spark plug and she's sooty ......bugger

    Too late to do too much else ...... I may look again at her tomorrow, maybe another half turn (anticlockwise) of needle, but before all that will need to call into servo for more fuel.

    Will inquire about an O2 meter and sensor ....thanks 85 County at this time all advice appreciated.

    Cheers

    Baggy

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    Baggy, your drive reminds me of a drive I did about 50 years ago from home into Sydney and back in my Jaguar - about 35 miles (56 km) each way.

    I filled both tanks (17 gals - 77 litres) before I left for Sydney and had to fill up again on the way home.
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    Which is Left???

    Hi Ron,

    Would love those fuel prices now.....back then you wouldnt have thought twice about having to fill to come home....more the inconvenience of having to pull up while an attendant pumped your fuel for you ......those were the days.

    Cheers

    Baggy

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    Baggy I have an excellent manifold modified for 2 barrel Holley found that with 320cfm economiser Holley was a fantastic combo for normal driving and so much easier than CdU to set up and tune. It is foc if you want pm me if interested

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    Also check the return fuel line isn't blocked (usually in the nipple in the tank).

    Could cause the same stuff.

    cheers, DL

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    The first thing to do is check the diaphragms.
    The second is to look into the carb throats and register where the main jet sits. It is sticking up around the needle. They should be equal and about AFAIR level with the bottom of the throat.

    The third is to check the balance of the carbys.

    And maybe the fourth is to check the float levels.
    Regards Philip A

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