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Thread: Acorn headed bolts

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Pfah. If you can't gauge an external thread with a simple steel ruler you aren't even trying. Line up a thread peak with your chosen zero, count the number of threads until a peak lines up again with another mm marker, divide the mm by the number of threads counted and you've got it.
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    See your optometrist for some working glasses!

    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Piffle !
    That depends on being able to see tiny things clearly... at our vintage... Das olden Lookenpeepers nicht verk too vell....



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    Imperial works basically the same as metric.

    you will have a bolt that is so many fractions of an inch (or inch + so many fractions) long that is a fraction of an inch wide (or inch + fraction) by a number of threads per inch.


    both types of bolts ( and no I am not getting into BSP, BSPT, Withworth, BSC, BSE, British conduit, and yes they all appear on landrovers of various vintages and in some cases on one major sub assembly) come in a variety of thread setups

    For metric you have (for most fittings) a fine, normal and coarse thread. in the case of M8 that might be .75 1 and 1.25mm

    for imperial you generally have UNF and UNC. one might be 18TPI for coarse and 24tpi for fine.

    Generally you can pick the measurement type (metric/Imperial) and tensile strength of a bolt by its markings. Metric will have a number that indicates its hardness and imperial will have a series of radiating lines.

    Higher numbers and more lines indicate a higher tensile strength this mean the bolt is harder and stronger but it becomes more brittle this is a good and bad thing. If you go with a both thats too high in tensile strenght it can chew out the threads on whatever you install it into or in some applications it will shear under side loading. They also have less "feel" when you install them. where a low tensile strenght bolt might only handle say 100nm of torque you'll start to feel it yeilding and it will still hold from 80nm through to 120nm (I just made those numbers up stay with me) before it lets go. A high tensile bolt might hold as you torque it up to say 400nm but it might only give you the same 40nm range when you can feel it yielding and yielding wont be over a half of a turn it'll be 1/12th of a turn.

    put simply, low tensile strength bolts are very plastic and will stretch and bend and when they fail they fail in a fairly calm manner, much like when you pull play dough apart. High tensile bolts shatter, like when you smack an ice block with a hammer.
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    Ahhh.... I see.....

    But alas, these appear to be 8mm acorn heads... and 5mm Allen-key.
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    with a few exceptions there is no direct correlation to the size of the bolt head and the threaded body of the bolt.

    and M8 bolt can have anything from a 12mm head on it through to about 22 depending on what its designed to do. there are a lot of typical sizes that will give you a rough indication BUT a specialist bolt usually has a worded description that goes with it if its not just the stock sizing. (and that varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, A jap M8 will have a 12mm head with a .5mm flange on it that lends itself to rattle gun installations in factory use where an english version of the same bolt will have a 13mm head on it which is better for hand install and provides a better engagement into the body of the socket for torquing.


    when you start getting into pan headed, acorn and other not standard allen key bolts all bets are off.
    Dave

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