Thread: RRC what year got seats with arm rests?

Originally Posted by HangOver

I have an 81' 2 door.
I was wondering what year the RRC got those nice seats with the arm rests that mine doesn't have.
I think I read some where 82 or maybe 84?

I was also wondering about the legalities of adding a later chair to mine if I can find one with arm rests and has the seat belt in the chair back.

Or maybe they were never made, do you know?

G`day HangOver ,

1983 4 door , ( Highline here Vogue elsewhere ) also known as " Launch Pack " here was the first to come with both front and rear armrests .

This model has the belts in the seats like earlier models , so could be fitted to yours without any problem .

1984 was the last year in normal run to have the belts in the seats so you only have a couple of years that are a straight swap .

This next won`t tally with what`s already been typed but i know the following to be correct .

Vogue came about because a limited number of flash cars were built for 1981 .

LandRover stylists along with Wood and Pickett came up with the design .

This model was publicised in the Magazine Vogue .

This model was called the " In Vogue " because it was IN the magazine .

Then in 1983 a special edition model was made but because it had nothing to do with the magazine was called " Vogue " and the in was dropped .

Then from that model all the flash ones were Vogue ( highline ) and the lesser fitted models " standard " this carried on untill around 1989 .

Cheers

So I'm looking out for a 83/84 highline/vogue
thanks for that !

You never know !

Originally Posted by HangOver

So I'm looking out for a 83/84 highline/vogue
thanks for that !

You never know !

No (well not quite) the first Hiline was a 1985 model, phase 2 Range Rover, although some had late 1984 build dates (it's a Rover Co production year thing) the Hilines were all 4 door in Oz and had the seat belts from the door pillar.

There was a Vogue (not to be confused with the much later Vogue SE) which was released in 1983 and did have arm rests and an integral seatbelt.

Diana

Originally Posted by aquarangie

All Rangies up til 89 were called Hi-Lines, although in the UK they're always referd to as a Vogue from day one I think. But all Aus spec Rangies were called Vogues from this time on (89 onwrds)

Best way to tell is that all Hi-Lines in Aus all had the LT230 transfer, Vogues IICR were all BW Viscous coupling Transfer cases.

Trav

Trav - Wrong Wrong Wrong.

When I bought my HiLine (10/84 build date first reg December 1984 in Oz) I could have had the base model. The base models had hand winding regulators for the door windows and the trim was a beige colour in plastic and no arm rests in either the front or rear seats.

The Hiline models had grey interior trim with wood panel inserts the door handles, wood trim for the top of the door trim and electric window regulators. The front seats had armrests in the centre of the car and the rear seats had 3 fold out armrests. If it doesn't have wood trim and arm rests then it is not a Hiline.

There were no Hilines before the phase 2 (1985 model with some built after August 1984) and the Hiline ended with the release of the Vogue SE in 1988.

You are somewhat correct about the LT230 transfer - they were introduced with the phase 2 although they were on both the Hiline and the base model Range Rover with whichever the LT77, Torqueflyte 727 or ZF gearboxes. The Vogue SE from 1988 did have the BW viscous coupling transfer box. While the Disco 1, which replaced the base model RR retained the LT230

Diana

Addit: For those who want to discuss (argue) this one, can I ask you to consider the following. I owned a 1980 RR in 1982 kept it for a couple or three years and traded it in to Richard Asquith to buy my current Phase 2 Range Rover. I know what was available at the time and what they were called and purchased my Hiline from the showroom. If you have any more personal experience than that. You can call me wrong.

Originally Posted by HangOver

So I'm looking out for a 83/84 highline/vogue
thanks for that !

You never know !

Yep , i don`t think what it`s called matters .

From 83 the armrests were an option for flasher ones .

Cheers

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Trav - Wrong Wrong Wrong.

When I bought my HiLine (10/84 build date first reg December 1984 in Oz) I could have had the base model. The base models had hand winding regulators for the door windows and the trim was a beige colour in plastic and no arm rests in either the front or rear seats.

The Hiline models had grey interior trim with wood panel inserts the door handles, wood trim for the top of the door trim and electric window regulators. The front seats had armrests in the centre of the car and the rear seats had 3 fold out armrests. If it doesn't have wood trim and arm rests then it is not a Hiline.

There were no Hilines before the phase 2 (1985 model with some built after August 1984) and the Hiline ended with the release of the Vogue SE in 1988.

You are somewhat correct about the LT230 transfer - they were introduced with the phase 2 although they were on both the Hiline and the base model Range Rover with whichever the LT77, Torqueflyte 727 or ZF gearboxes. The Vogue SE from 1988 did have the BW viscous coupling transfer box. While the Disco 1, which replaced the base model RR retained the LT230

Diana

Addit: For those who want to discuss (argue) this one, can I ask you to consider the following. I owned a 1980 RR in 1982 kept it for a couple or three years and traded it in to Richard Asquith to buy my current Phase 2 Range Rover. I know what was available at the time and what they were called and purchased my Hiline from the showroom. If you have any more personal experience than that. You can call me wrong.

G `day Diana ,

Pressuming the last peice is directed my way ?

I have no want to argue , it doesn`t really matter what they were called as highline is an AU thing and out of sinc with other places .

My interest is to see the correct infomation put up as i`m of the opinion if it`s typed it should be right and for no other reason .


If it`s right it gives credibility to this RR section .


The LT230 arrived around 1983 with the 3 spd auto T/F and then with the 1984 5 spd man LT77 when the LT95 was dropped which is prior to the 1984/5 Phase 2 BA model RR .

Please don`t take anything i type personally , i`ve no interest in one upmanship or who seems cleverer or cleverest or anything like .
Only that the info if typed is correct as possible .

If i type wrong or misleading info i expect and ask that it be corrected .

Cheers , Peter

Peter

No not directed at you -

The thing that got on my goat and I'm not going to name names is the comments that "All Rangies up til 89 were called Hi-Lines, although in the UK they're always referred to as a Vogue from day one" this is simply wrong on at least 2 counts.

You are correct there was a Vogue model from 1983 to 1984, and the launch pack referred to the release of the 4 door models not to the launch of the Phase 2 models. In this you may be correct the Vogue models could have had the LT230/727 transmission (which was the reason for the LT230 design) up until the LT230 and particularly in Oz the auto was an aftermarket conversion of the original (Ferguson designed) 4 speed manual box to a BW 3 speed auto, these were actually sold with the conversion through the Oz dealer network with a new car warranty.

On the other hand, the Hiline only came in "as the flashy model" from the start of the phase 2 up until the Vogue SE which was launched in 1988. There was always a standard trim version while the Hiline was available, however when the Vogue SE came in JRA could have well dropped the importation of the standard version while they awaited the intro of the Discovery.

When it all comes down to it - HangOver's question about the arm rests: he needs to find seats from a Vogue model (the flashy upgraded trim option) built between 1983 and August 1984. This may be an awkward ask.

Diana

Thanks Diana ,

i don`t want to seem to be treading on anyone toes because that`s not my way .

If i disagree with something i will always try to give explaination and reason as to why .

Cheers , Peter .