which RRC

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Originally Posted by shorty

ummm in english please ;)

the rest I got, what the heck is a 14CUX and a flapper :(

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14CUX = hot wire Mass Airflow Meter
Flapper = moving flap air flow meter

Here ya go, this guy puts it in some detail:

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

The Lucas/Hitachi hot-wire MAF sensor was used on Range Rovers from their introduction in the US market in 1987.

Range Rovers built for other world markets (to 1990), Rover SD1 cars, and non-carbureted Triumph TR8 cars featured an entirely different and more primative sensor technology. Specifically, they used the Bosch L-Jetronic (L for "luft") "moving flap" air flow meter in which the moving current of induction air pushes past a spring-loaded vane. The Bosch L-Jetronic sensor dates back to about 1974. Some of the mechanical parts of these systems may be interesting to engine swappers, but the sensor and Lucas's analog electronic control system generally aren't.

The Lucas/Hitachi hot-wire MAF sensor was used with three different generations of Electronic Control Unit. With each generation the control system's electronic hardware and its programming improved, so the final version is preferable. The final version of Lucas electronic fuel injection was called "14CUX". 14CUX system were installed from 1990 through 1995 on engines with displacements of 3.9 and 4.2 liters.

The 14CUX's immediate predecessor was called 14CU. This system was used on US-market 1989 Range Rovers with 3.9L engines. It's largely similar to the 14CUX system, but the 14CUX provided several new features. Most notably, the 14CUX system included an auxiliary module to assist troubleshooting by displaying numeric fault codes (as shown below). Also, the 14CUX system came with a newer generation of Bosch fuel injectors which provide more power and approximately one mile per gallon better fuel economy. (The newer injectors are easy to retrofit to 13CU and 14CU systems.)

What came before the 14CU system? U.S. (and Swiss) market 1987 and 1988 Range Rovers with 3.5L engines came with a system called 13CU. The 13CU computer is easy to differentiate from later computers because the housing is quite different. Just look for pop-rivets.

One of the coolest things about the Rover 14CUX system is that it will self-adapt to many of our cars. For example, it will work fine with a wide range of compression ratios and exhaust systems. There are a couple notable exceptions. For example, the 14CUX system has a hard time adapting to a cam with a lobe separation angle under 112 degrees.

From this web page: HERE

Jon

thanks guys, thats heaps of info.

I mst admit, I like bells and whistles (Hilines and Vogues) but maybe in the bush burried up to its guts in mud isnt the perfect place for computers and hi tech wizardy.

I think I am better sticking with a base model :( ie dual carbs, 4 speed manual, manual windows, hose out interior etc

the plans are to fit the standard things like 33's, winch, flares & guard chops, coil and body lift etc etc to make it bush ready but most of all it has to be capable of being fixed with a piece of fence wire and chewing gum ;)

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Originally Posted by shorty

ummm in english please ;)

the rest I got, what the heck is a 14CUX and a flapper :(

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Hi Short stuff,

14CUX is what your D1 has on it now as fuel injection, the flapper type EFI was the one I was telling you about today NOT to buy. In that case, twin carbs are actually better I believe.

JC

As PhilipA said, the early 90's Range Rovers (90-92 pre ABS, air suspension and not an SE spec) are probably the best all-rounder. If you want a bash and crash Rangie (ie- for bouncing off trees as an example) get yourself a $1K special with half-****ed nearly everything.

I paid $3.2K for my Vog (1990 Vogue SE. Called a 'Vog' because the 'ue' in 'vogue' is missing off the tailgate :D), bought a spec I wan't really after but the price was right and generally it's a solid and reliable Rangie. I removed the sunroof because it was rusty and didn't open properly (I also had a spare roof around the back of the shed, no point wasting it :(). I gave it a coat of Westminster grey and now it looks all good and almost like it should of been there in the first place. Currently it's now about 5 inches higher off the ground than it was when I bought it and has all the goodies added (maxi's, 4.11's, LRA flares and 2 1/2 LRA body lift kit, 2 inch suspension lift, 33 inch MT/R's, etc..)

The BW viscous coupling is a decent unit, cheaply rebuildable these days but for any sort of hard 4WD work the Lt230 is more the choice. What I have found is that the BW units tend to vary, some work, some don't and the rest start to seize afte about 250K or more.

Best part is do your homework. Drive a few and you soon realise they're a big varable in rangies, not one drives the same. takes a while to find the right example and don't buy the first one you see (unless it's dirt cheap),. Most important is not to pay too much. Comon sense is the key here and most caryards ask far too much for them particularly here in QLD, ripoff capital in Oz as far as LR's go IMO :mad::mad::mad:

Anyway, good luck with it.

Trav

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Originally Posted by shorty

thanks guys, thats heaps of info.

but maybe in the bush burried up to its guts in mud

I think I am better sticking with a base model :( ie dual carbs, 4 speed manual, manual windows, hose out interior etc

it has to be capable of being fixed with a piece of fence wire and chewing gum ;)

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Ohhh .... That wouldn't do a computer no good being located under the drivers seat :p

2 DOOR rangie for you i think
come to think of it ... your in Tazzie
Keep a look out for this ... it might still be for sale :D
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/range-rove...os-rangie.html

Used LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER Private Seller Cars For Sale - carsales.com.au

is the owner here or does anyone know this vehicle ;)

jeez it'd be a shame to butcher that car. stick it in a container and flog it off to pommie land. you'd probably get enough for it as is to buy several four doors. then you could have one smicko road vogue and a basher for the bush.
start cutting that one up and Bache will be spinning in his grave, she's a beauty, cool enough for callan......

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Originally Posted by pomonastik

jeez it'd be a shame to butcher that car. stick it in a container and flog it off to pommie land. you'd probably get enough for it as is to buy several four doors. then you could have one smicko road vogue and a basher for the bush.
start cutting that one up and Bache will be spinning in his grave, she's a beauty, cool enough for callan......

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well, thats if its as good as they say. I dont know, but I have gone to look at cars over the years that the owners say are great only to get there and find the biggest pile of ****e that you could ever see. This one might be great, but until you go and look at it, I wont know.

thats why I posted the link, in the hope that someone knows the car and verifies what its like.

is there anyone in the ACT who knows this car ?

i bought my '88RRC blind off ebay (ok one photo) 1020 km away for $1850. how do i know it was exactly 1020k ? i drove it home from sydney. owner was in china, keys in the letter box, papers in the glove box.
oh ye of little faith......

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Originally Posted by pomonastik

i bought my '88RRC blind off ebay (ok one photo) 1020 km away for $1850. how do i know it was exactly 1020k ? i drove it home from sydney. owner was in china, keys in the letter box, papers in the glove box.
oh ye of little faith......

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you got lucky, look, there are good cars and bargains out there but there are also alot of people who will misrepresent things just to sell them. When you are looking at buying a car thats 20 years old, its a fair chance it will have some prolems and the owner may not be all that honest :(

congrats on buying a good one