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Thread: Dual Voltage Perenties. Do you use the 24V side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Attempting the utilise the engine you are fumigating with the browns gas or just the hydrogen to power the "cracker" that is creating the gas to fumigate the engine doesn't.
    Is it that this size HHO generator cant produce enough product to feed the engine in real time?

    Or just the whole net energy cost thing?

    Or both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Then you add entropy.
    Sooo ... if i didn't care about it, it would work better?

    Wait ... Where' my thesaurus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    I was going to fit a perpetual motion engine, but was worried the noise of it spinning would keep me up at night!
    Just read this again.

    If its making noise, you're doing it wrong.

    Check the polariser alignment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Just read this again.

    If its making noise, you're doing it wrong.

    Check the polariser alignment.

    how many posts did that take, I was sure that Ben would come straight back.

    Sometimes my attempts at humour go unnoticed.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    how many posts did that take, I was sure that Ben would come straight back.

    Sometimes my attempts at humour go unnoticed.
    Us mere males take a bit longer to absorb matters of wit, is all.



    Nvm. My forum humour is generally ignored, which makes me try even harder. When i finally do get flamed ... well ... "Mission accomplished"

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    This is the point where we know you don't know what you are talking about.
    Hi all one thing I do know I have improved fuel economy to 9 lts per 100k which is better than 11 lts per 100k before the gas generator was fitted. but I must admit that the cost of the gas Generator was not cheap another benefit's has been that the engine runs a little quieter

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Sounds like confusion with combustion engine energy conversion efficiency.

    Facts appear to be a bit mangled though.

    Been trying to find some empirical research on H2O2 use in diesel engines. Very difficult with all the snake oil websites out there.
    Yes that's correct there is a lot of BS out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    This is the point where we know you don't know what you are talking about.
    Most engine's are at best only 30% efficient in regards to output and the energy input e.g fuel so where dose that un burned fuel go ? ( I think it goes into the air as pollution)

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad56 View Post
    Most engine's are at best only 30% efficient in regards to output and the energy input e.g fuel so where dose that un burned fuel go ? ( I think it goes into the air as pollution)
    I think you will find that missing fuel is burnt. It's just that the energy contained in that fuel has gone into heat, sound, windage and other frictional forces.

    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Sooo ... if i didn't care about it, it would work better?

    Wait ... Where' my thesaurus?
    I think the black one is on the money. Have a read of the second law of thermodynamics.

    If I didn't care about day following night, would it stop?

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    Any other users of the 24V auxilliary system apart from hydrogen producers?

    Plenty of accessories that cross over to the truck market run on either 12V or 24V:
    fridge
    UHF radio
    Stereo?
    aircon perhaps, for those without room under the bonnet due to turbo? Could the aircon unit fit in a battery bay? Oh wait, the majority of FFRs are soft top ahaha...
    24V Oscillating fan...what is this the 70s?
    QZO 8 Inch 24V CAR FAN Cooling Device Oscillating FAN Clip FOR Trucks | eBay

    Anyone found a good 24V air compressor? Plenty of options for those going EAS...
    Modify cordless rattle guns etc to use the 24V supply?
    driving lights?
    work lights
    air horns
    electric winch-relocate spare to make room for a rear winch for the tuff trips?

    pretty much anything that runs on 12V can be had for 24V as well.

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    What I can't understand is why they didn't just make the FFRs (or all Perenties) run on 24V only. It would have been so easy with the 4BD1 and the array of 24V starter motors and alternators it has.

    Has anyone measured their fuel consumption with the 24V generator spinning and then again with the belt off? That would be interesting.

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