Thread: RFSU at Auction

Rathgar, the vehicle in question is an SRV. surveillance/reconnaissance vehicle. 2+2 designed for RAinf battalions and raaf airfield defense guards.
It is built up from an early delivery RFSV 2+1 ( regional forces surveillance vehicle). Yes yes,I know, the comp plate says RFSU. They were still sorting their nomenclature at that stage, though the RFSUs had been around for 6-8 yrs by then.
The early builds were compl for 3, the later ones ('91) were the standard Perentie 2 seat compl.
Depending on where you take it to get registered, you will need a std windscreen (bolts back on), remove the wire cutting/front protection bar. The awol adventures vehicle that Juddy was referring to was passed with the wheel carrying doors in place. Just depends on the inspectors version of protrusions.
They have 4 point harness in the rear seats (as do RFSV) but you will need a lower spec lap/sash belt to pass.
I hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Barefoot Dave

Rathgar, the vehicle in question is an SRV. surveillance/reconnaissance vehicle. 2+2 designed for RAinf battalions and raaf airfield defense guards.
It is built up from an early delivery RFSV 2+1 ( regional forces surveillance vehicle). Yes yes,I know, the comp plate says RFSU. They were still sorting their nomenclature at that stage, though the RFSUs had been around for 6-8 yrs by then.
The early builds were compl for 3, the later ones ('91) were the standard Perentie 2 seat compl.
Depending on where you take it to get registered, you will need a std windscreen (bolts back on), remove the wire cutting/front protection bar. The awol adventures vehicle that Juddy was referring to was passed with the wheel carrying doors in place. Just depends on the inspectors version of protrusions.
They have 4 point harness in the rear seats (as do RFSV) but you will need a lower spec lap/sash belt to pass.
I hope this helps.

In QLD Dave you cant use either of those belts for the rear seat. And just because AWOL got it passed does not make it legal, If you are a dodgy inspector then yes you may pass something that should not pass.

As its not a Land Rover tested part and as such does not fall into a defined ADR category it may well be totally Illegal. Would be interesting to see if all AU states have the same ruling on tyres for doors?

AWOL also got a 6x6 troop carries with side ways facing seats passed, I thought the army banned them from the public roads with passengers due to how dangerous they are in a side on crash? Again maybe a different rule in NSW

DR2 ? Door latches and Hinges:
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006L01362
Section 2. Definitions
2.3. "Doors" means hinged or sliding doors which lead directly into a compartment that contains one or more seating ?positions and which are not folding doors, roll-up doors and doors that are designed to be easily attached to or removed from motor vehicles manufactured for operation without doors. This should be enough on its own!!

ADR29 ? Side Door Strength
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00735
SECTION 29.5. EXEMPTION FROM TEST REQUIREMENTS
Vehicles complying with the requirements of ADR 72/? are exempt from the requirements of this rule.


ADR 72 ? Dynamic Side Impact Occupant Protection
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2005L03992
Section 1. SCOPE

This Regulation applies to the lateral collision behaviour of the structure of the passenger compartment of Ml and Nl categories of vehicles where the R point of the lowest seat is not more than 700 mm from ground level when the vehicle is in the condition corresponding to the reference mass defined in paragraph 2.10. of this Regulation. -

Section 4. Principal dimensions
4.2.1 Testing Dummy dimensions

No. Parameter Dimension (mm)
1 Sitting height 904 ? 7
2 Seat to shoulder joint 557 ? 5
3 Seat to bottom lower rib 357 ? 5
4 Seat to arm 242 ? 5
5 Seat to H-point 98 ? 2

Originally Posted by Landybitz

DR2 ? Door latches and Hinges:
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006L01362
Section 2. Definitions
2.3. "Doors" means hinged or sliding doors which lead directly into a compartment that contains one or more seating ?positions and which are not folding doors, roll-up doors and doors that are designed to be easily attached to or removed from motor vehicles manufactured for operation without doors. This should be enough on its own!!

ADR29 ? Side Door Strength
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2007C00735
SECTION 29.5. EXEMPTION FROM TEST REQUIREMENTS
Vehicles complying with the requirements of ADR 72/? are exempt from the requirements of this rule.


ADR 72 ? Dynamic Side Impact Occupant Protection
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2005L03992
Section 1. SCOPE

This Regulation applies to the lateral collision behaviour of the structure of the passenger compartment of Ml and Nl categories of vehicles where the R point of the lowest seat is not more than 700 mm from ground level when the vehicle is in the condition corresponding to the reference mass defined in paragraph 2.10. of this Regulation. -

Section 4. Principal dimensions
4.2.1 Testing Dummy dimensions

No. Parameter Dimension (mm)
1 Sitting height 904 ? 7
2 Seat to shoulder joint 557 ? 5
3 Seat to bottom lower rib 357 ? 5
4 Seat to arm 242 ? 5
5 Seat to H-point 98 ? 2

Those ADRs you linked to do not apply to a Perentie.
Why mention it?
If an inspector got you on ADR72, either he saw you coming, or he doesn't know his job.

You'll be saying Perenties are unsafe because they don't have airbags next.

Originally Posted by Barefoot Dave

Rathgar, the vehicle in question is an SRV. surveillance/reconnaissance vehicle. 2+2 designed for RAinf battalions and raaf airfield defense guards.
It is built up from an early delivery RFSV 2+1 ( regional forces surveillance vehicle). Yes yes,I know, the comp plate says RFSU. They were still sorting their nomenclature at that stage, though the RFSUs had been around for 6-8 yrs by then.
The early builds were compl for 3, the later ones ('91) were the standard Perentie 2 seat compl.
Depending on where you take it to get registered, you will need a std windscreen (bolts back on), remove the wire cutting/front protection bar. The awol adventures vehicle that Juddy was referring to was passed with the wheel carrying doors in place. Just depends on the inspectors version of protrusions.
They have 4 point harness in the rear seats (as do RFSV) but you will need a lower spec lap/sash belt to pass.
I hope this helps.

Thanks Dave

So the points raised by you as needing to be changed for rego. Were these altered, modified, removed by the ADF. What did it look like when it left the JRA factory.

Originally Posted by Landybitz

...And just because AWOL got it passed does not make it legal, If you are a dodgy inspector then yes you may pass something....

And then the inspector will be liable if it all goes pear shaped.

[QUOTE=Barefoot Dave;2467340....They have 4 point harness in the rear seats (as do RFSV) but you will need a lower spec lap/sash belt to pass.
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

From the pictures both rear seats appear to be fitted with 3 point inertia reel belts

Justin, I'm not going to get in an argument about compliance or otherwise of Perentie variants. Given the **** fight that our Victorian 'concerned individual' has raised across the country, I'm not going to give anyone what they perceive to be ammunition for forum BS. Suffice to say that I consider the SRV wheel carrying doors an order of magnitude MORE safe for passengers than standard.
Rathgar: check out REMLR for photos on the original configuration of the RFSVs. The rear seat was a rear facing seat on rails and could be adjusted to face rear or forward and at either end of the tub. The later versions that I have seen complied had the seats rotated forward with one of the storage binds removed to allow egress to the rear. The screen is a straight fit once the bars and Mg mounts are removed. They are additions to a standard Perentie after all.

Thats fine Dave, no ones arguging its a free forum to have a debate not be angry at people.