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    Quote Originally Posted by miky View Post
    Perhaps the question to ask your supplier is: can the radio be programmed for the new channels?

    For what it is worth... the Icom 400Pro can. I have a 400Pro.
    As far as I can see the Icom 440 can't. I don't have one.
    Looks like the GME 36xx and 38xx radios can. I have a 3840.

    If any one can provide a list of radios that can be programmed it would be good.
    Also, when will the "new" radios become available?


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    I spoke to GME a couple of months ago. I was told, none of their product can, and they dont plan on doing any design on this until after the new specification is nailed down....think I have an email from them somewhere, will see if i can find it.

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    I did read somewhere in the draft policy that it will be illegal for manufacturers to sell new 40 channel UHF radios three months after the new channels come in.
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    Garry

    Submissions to the inquiry only closed on October 12th just gone, so it is unlikely that any legislation/regulation on the sale of legacy equipment will yet have been gazetted.

    The old equipment will still be usable although 40 channel equipment will cause interference to 80 channel reception when they are on frequencies that are overlapped by the broad bandwidth 40 ch sets. There will also be some clipping of the audio reception, not too dissimilar to that which occurs on telephones.

    My advice, don't rush in to any new equipment yet and there are likely to be a few bargains on 40 ch sets in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I did read somewhere in the draft policy that it will be illegal for manufacturers to sell new 40 channel UHF radios three months after the new channels come in.
    Illegal to sell them after 6 months; and illegal to use them after 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlB View Post
    Illegal to sell them after 6 months; and illegal to use them after 5 years.

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    KarlB
    Where is the radio buy-back? They had one for guns, we should be demanding one for the radios!

    At least with the changeover from analog (was still the best phone in the bush) to GSM/CDMA you could get a new basic handset for free!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Where is the radio buy-back? They had one for guns, we should be demanding one for the radios!

    At least with the changeover from analog (was still the best phone in the bush) to GSM/CDMA you could get a new basic handset for free!
    I suspect the depreciated value after 5 years would be zero. And as for free mobile handsets ...? The cost would simply have been loaded onto other charges. The gun buyback was funded by a 1% levy on income tax. As is often said: "there is no such thing as a free lunch"!

    Maybe you should write a letter to Minster Stephen Conroy or Shadow Minister Malcolm Turnbull. I am sure they would both be interested in your proposition. You could also copy it to the PM and Tony Abbott. The latter is 'already all ears'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish71 View Post
    It doesnt really matter, does it. if you need a radio to use now, then pretty much you are stuck with a 40 channel set up.

    At some stage in the future though, this set up will be redundant, and you will need to replace it.

    So, do you really need one?....or can you wait?

    Or use one of these (handheld) if you need one now, and wait till the in car sets are out. Bet they won't be cheap when they hit the streets.

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    The use of frequencies outside the UHF CB band can only be done if you have a licence to do so. A yearly fee in the $hundreds, or if you a an amateur and have passed an exam and still pay money for the privilige.

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    I recently bought a GME3400 from a reputable supplier in Bris. I needed it for a big trip and raised the issue... he was emphatic that he had been assured by GME they (dealers) would be able to reprogram the GME3400 in due course once the Feds had Gazetted the new rules. I was under the impression that public consultations have only recently concluded... and we know what the PS is like..."...they also serve who sit and wait..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlB View Post
    It is my understanding that the use of the 'current' 40 channel units will not be supported beyond 5 years and after that their use will be illegal. Also, because of the narrower channel spacing the 'signal energy' will be significantly less and the end user will perceive this as lower volume (ie you will have to turn the sound up).

    Cheers
    KarlB

    There will be NO perceived lower volume problem.All the new radios will just have a better IF filter that will allow operation at the 12.5 KHz channel spacing compared to the 25KHz spacing now

    Wayne

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