Retrofitting missing factory options to new-ish LR's; FL2, Evoque, D3/D4, RRS, etc...

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Originally Posted by Cambo@oldjaguar

I would leave the tweeters, as far as i can tell they are the same as other Meridian cars with aluminium cone.

The midrange and bass speakers for the doors are pretty clear.

I really can't comment on the subwoofer, apart from it does appear that the L550 and L405 ones are interchangeable.
Will the Reference/Signature one from the L405 be better? I don't know... maybe it's meant to take more power, which you aren't going to get with the stock amp... And as for a custom enclosure, again I can't say anything either way about that...

Topix, Microcat, calling in a lot of favours, some inside contacts, it takes a while to find out all this stuff.
Experience comes into it as well, i've done a lot of upgrades on late model JLR vehicles now, so you learn a lot as you go.

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I came across some tech sheets id neve seen before, not exactly for DS but for the very similar evoque:

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Finally got the car yesterday, audio is pretty good, better than expected, though i do see room for improvement, i definitely think i hear a sub woofer working. EDIT: Actually after further analisis, im not sure there is a subwoofer in my car... ive been trying some audio tests and i can hear frequencies as low as 28hz, but the seem to be comming from the base speakers... algo when i put my ear to where the sub is supposed to be (in the trunk on driver side), i cant hear a thing...

I sneaked a picture of the AHU/Amp, have no idea what it is, doesnt look like the older hardware ive seen before... i cant seem to find any seat removal guies...

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This is the sub on Jag XF premium systems:

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So the sub has 8db more of sensitivity and everything else almost the same. Im mostly worried about linear excursion, id be looking to get a used one on ebay and attempt the retrofit. If it works this should translate to a pretty good improvement of the stock sub...

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Originally Posted by Cambo@oldjaguar

INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W
[ENHANCED SOUND SYSTEM (L2) "NLI HEAD UNIT LEVEL C"]
== Note that in the F-Pace this is called BRANDED SOUND SYS (L3), but it's the same as (L2) in the L550

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Hey Cambo,

According to TOPix this is whats installed, however im not sure i feel a sub in the trunk. Do you have any schematics of how to get to it?

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Originally Posted by mvelasco

Do you have any schematics of how to get to it?

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Hi Mvelasco

I have a Discovery Sport on order... so Im following your upgrades with interest.

I found the Topix pdfs on the UK Discosport forum.

Of relevance for you I found pdfs for the Infotainment details Attachment 127593,

Subwoofer removal Attachment 127592

and Trim removal in the loadspace area Attachment 127591.

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Originally Posted by guthrie

Hi Mvelasco

I have a Discovery Sport on order... so Im following your upgrades with interest.

I found the Topix pdfs on the UK Discosport forum.

Of relevance for you I found pdfs for the Infotainment details Attachment 127593,

Subwoofer removal Attachment 127592

and Trim removal in the loadspace area Attachment 127591.

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Hi Guthrie,

Awesome info, i also have an account on that forum but didnt look hard enough i guess.

After reading about the infotainment on the PDFs im a bit heartbroken. Comparing the Amp pictures on the PDF with the picture i took, it appears i have the E167298 Audio Amplifier Module, which is specified for the 190-250W system, and since i cant seem to hear a sub, im thinking ive got the 190w :S

Im still going ahead with the mods proposed by Cambo. I do feel that the bass speakers are the weakest point of the whole setup, so im thinking the swap will make a substantial improvement. Ill be waiting on the sub tho as im not sure if it would be plug and play.

I recently bought a full set of used speakers from the jaguar xf 09-11 (8X23-18808-AB / C2Z3438) on ebay:

Attachment 127610

I wont be using them all but this whole package cost the same as buying 4 used bass speakers individually. I have also ordered the meridian midranges LR033290 from lrdirect.

Hopefully in the future, some sort of retrofit option will appear so i can push those speakers a bit more and add a sub...

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Ive realized the following:

Opt 1: The E167298 amp is a 190w-250w amp, but the 250W is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W.
Opt 2: The E167299 amp is a 250w amp, and is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH PRO MERIDIAN® DIGITAL SOUND, 380W.

The difference between these two being the DIGITAL keyword, as option 2 uses the MOST bus. If im correct, Cambo mentioned that there arent that many discos built using the E167299?

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Originally Posted by mvelasco

After reading about the infotainment on the PDFs im a bit heartbroken. Comparing the Amp pictures on the PDF with the picture i took, it appears i have the E167298 Audio Amplifier Module, which is specified for the 190-250W system, and since i cant seem to hear a sub, im thinking ive got the 190w :S

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So it's the 10-speaker system then? I guess it will be possible to change the amp and add the subwoofer, if that's the case. But you will need a means of editing the CCF to do so...

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Originally Posted by mvelasco

Im still going ahead with the mods proposed by Cambo. I do feel that the bass speakers are the weakest point of the whole setup, so im thinking the swap will make a substantial improvement. Ill be waiting on the sub tho as im not sure if it would be plug and play.

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Won't be plug & play, you will need the CCF changed to enable the sub.

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Originally Posted by mvelasco

Ive realized the following:

Opt 1: The E167298 amp is a 190w-250w amp, but the 250W is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W.
Opt 2: The E167299 amp is a 250w amp, and is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH PRO MERIDIAN® DIGITAL SOUND, 380W.

The difference between these two being the DIGITAL keyword, as option 2 uses the MOST bus. If im correct, Cambo mentioned that there arent that many discos built using the E167299?

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Not it is not MOST, it's the ethernet system. Only the very first of the L550's with 825W Meridian Surround had MOST...

You will be able to add the sub if it's missing, but it will need the different amplifier and a CCF change.

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Originally Posted by mvelasco

Hi Guthrie,

Awesome info, i also have an account on that forum but didnt look hard enough i guess.

After reading about the infotainment on the PDFs im a bit heartbroken. Comparing the Amp pictures on the PDF with the picture i took, it appears i have the E167298 Audio Amplifier Module, which is specified for the 190-250W system, and since i cant seem to hear a sub, im thinking ive got the 190w :S

Im still going ahead with the mods proposed by Cambo. I do feel that the bass speakers are the weakest point of the whole setup, so im thinking the swap will make a substantial improvement. Ill be waiting on the sub tho as im not sure if it would be plug and play.

I recently bought a full set of used speakers from the jaguar xf 09-11 (8X23-18808-AB / C2Z3438) on ebay:

Attachment 127610

I wont be using them all but this whole package cost the same as buying 4 used bass speakers individually. I have also ordered the meridian midranges LR033290 from lrdirect.

Hopefully in the future, some sort of retrofit option will appear so i can push those speakers a bit more and add a sub...

EDIT:

Ive realized the following:

Opt 1: The E167298 amp is a 190w-250w amp, but the 250W is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH MERIDIAN® SOUND, 380W.
Opt 2: The E167299 amp is a 250w amp, and is branded as INCONTROL TOUCH PRO MERIDIAN® DIGITAL SOUND, 380W.

The difference between these two being the DIGITAL keyword, as option 2 uses the MOST bus. If im correct, Cambo mentioned that there arent that many discos built using the E167299?

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Hi mvelasco, I'll be following your footsteps if all goes well! Are you going to DIY or get a car audio shop to install it?

Is there an instruction on how to remove panels to get access to the speakers?

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Originally Posted by noone

Is there an instruction on how to remove panels to get access to the speakers?

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It doesnt look too hard to get the door panels off - see here Attachment 128351

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Originally Posted by guthrie

It doesnt look too hard to get the door panels off - see here Attachment 128351

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Cheers for that.

Doesn't look too complicated but still a bit daunting for me haha I always tend to break the plastic bits.

I do notice they say to discard the retaining clips and install a new one. Maybe they are designed to be installed once.

This might be interesting for some people, I was able to get the speed and redlight cameras added to the nav system in the IAM2.1.

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Was not exactly straight forward, the IAM2.1 is a bit finicky as to which files it will accept, and I had to draw all new icons in order for them to be the same size as the factory icons, and to be legible.

But, there is now Australia-wide coverage of speed cameras, red light cameras, combined speed & red light cameras, variable speed zones (e.g. school zones) and the nice part is there is a different icon for each, the icon shows the speed limit that the camera is checking for, 110, 100, 90, 80, 70, 60, 50, 40

This is straight upload for 2014MY onward vehicles, and the software in the IAM can be updated in the earlier cars to enable this as well.

So...

2014MY D4 is a direct upload, the 2012-2013MY D4 needs a software update.
L320 Range Rover Sport from 2012-2013MY needs an update, the L494 RRS from 2014MY accepts it as is.

And so on...