Thread: Mac gurus

Originally Posted by ozscott

I am not an apple fan boy. Only had an iPhone and ipad air but they lasted very well. Air is still going. So they seem good value if you don't mind the tech moving on as you hold onto them. I think their products are good although for general business use PC makes more sense to me. Having said that I have a mate, a computer tech, with a $5k mac book pro with custom covers and stuff where Windows 11 has bricked his machine for now...so perhaps if paying for an expensive machine stick with Windows 10 if running Windows. I has a Lenovo Yoga 930 get killed by Windows 11. Finally gone to the darkside and bought a Microsoft Surface Laptop 4. Hopefully the machine by the people who do the operating system will do the trick. Cheers

Dunno what your problem is with Apple stuff.............. you've said it lasts, yes it outlasts software developments. I did get a security update for a 5s last year though, have a gen 3 SE now.

Ever thought that ms software advertised as suitable for mac or lenovo may not function as stated? Happened to me, but didn't brick the mac I have now.

Those problems and solutions were posted on this forum about 4 years ago.

how to open an embedded xlsx file in a docx file

The telstra lady I referred to was actually from ms, who said the fault was with the mac.

The fault was with their software. I still use the older version of it and it works fine, the then 'current' version was a disaster.

cheers, DL

Originally Posted by 350RRC

Dunno what your problem is with Apple stuff.............. you've said it lasts, yes it outlasts software developments. I did get a security update for a 5s last year though, have a gen 3 SE now.

Ever thought that ms software advertised as suitable for mac or lenovo may not function as stated? Happened to me, but didn't brick the mac I have now.

Those problems and solutions were posted on this forum about 4 years ago.

how to open an embedded xlsx file in a docx file

The telstra lady I referred to was actually from ms, who said the fault was with the mac.

The fault was with their software. I still use the older version of it and it works fine, the then 'current' version was a disaster.

cheers, DL

Thanks mate. I don't have a problem with Apple computers for stand alone products or say for graphic design studios etc but when wanting Microsoft docs to play nicely with the vast majority of the business world using PC I like...just using PC. I have mates at work who persevere with Mac and they are great (too expensive for what you get but still pretty cool kit) but they still have ongoing compatibility issues when using the Microsoft Office suite side of things. Haven't got time for that. I have very good PC builds for my main machines with quality components that last and last so longevity is not just an apple domain. I have also had mates not getting the life they thought from the all in one apple screen computers. They all have pros and cons. Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

Thanks mate. I don't have a problem with Apple computers for stand alone products or say for graphic design studios etc but when wanting Microsoft docs to play nicely with the vast majority of the business world using PC I like...just using PC. I have mates at work who persevere with Mac and they are great (too expensive for what you get but still pretty cool kit) but they still have ongoing compatibility issues when using the Microsoft Office suite side of things. Haven't got time for that. I have very good PC builds for my main machines with quality components that last and last so longevity is not just an apple domain. I have also had mates not getting the life they thought from the all in one apple screen computers. They all have pros and cons. Cheers

IME I had to install the 2016 version of Office for Mac for all the functions like Word, XL, to work properly, the later version did not work as touted by MS at the time.

The bonus was / is that all the 'work' is done on the mac instead of being sent to the cloud and back again with the time delay and stupid data usage. Even a ****ing full stop, every ****ing letter or edit went to and fro.

I do use the MS exchange for email, which works fine after a hiccup initially at the MS end, also previously posted.

Another bonus with mac is that all emails are stored on the hard drive, which is a SSD in my case, and backed up with a separate HD.

cheers, DL

I have to run windows software. Office, AutoCAD, Revit and a few others. I just keep them contained in a Windows VM that has no connectivity to the outside world. Nothing can phone home, instant snapshot and restore and frankly windows behaves so much better when kept away from the hardware.

When you need Office on windows, there's really no substitute. There's just no reason you have to put up with the rest of the Microsoft crap when you can keep it neatly isolated off in the naughty corner.

With the move away from the Intel architecture, that's going to change the way I do things, but I've got a few years to plan for that.

Originally Posted by BradC

When you need Office on windows, there's really no substitute.

only true if you use access based stuff or some really weird macros..

libre office on mac is more compatible with ms formats than ms's own software

saved my bacon many times over...

Originally Posted by incisor

only true if you use access based stuff or some really weird macros..

libre office on mac is more compatible with ms formats than ms's own software

saved my bacon many times over...

Yes, but. And to give you perspective I've been using Libreoffice since it was Staroffice (that I paid for). I use it for pretty much anything I can get away with and certainly for all my personal organisation documents (as does my Wife).

If you are working on complicated documents with specific formatting elements and collaborating with others then it's not uncommon for libreoffice to return the MS Office document "not quite looking as it was". ie, requiring a lot of correction.

To be honest, I've had Office on Mac do that also, so I make a point in those instances to work on the document on a recent version of Word for Windows. As soon as I started doing that, I stopped getting complaints I was "breaking their documents".

Word can be a fussy bitch.

I was so cheesed off with The Mainframe deciding to *NOT* recognize iPhone SE(2016) - that I lashed out on a 2011 iMac. Yes, very old... only 2-point something Ghz, But.... instantly noticed the 'phone... downloaded a necessary patch then 6,000 pics - seamlessly. Worth every cent of $370. 27" screen with only a touch of dust inside said 'glass......
- Rainy day project when SWMBO isn't around to notice...

I spent last years of my working life on Macs, . Dunno why I ever built the PC.

The gen 3 SE phones are just awesome.

It's great to have a computer or phone that you look forward to switching on. The way it should be.

The hidden abilities with apple stuff are also very broad and surprisingly so, not that I've had need to use them.

Apples for apples, androids for androids.

The goog has just been fined 60m$ for their take on location services.

DL