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    Wish I still had a VMS system

    Even better than UNIX

    Should we have a poll
    What computer platform do you use at home?
    1. PC + Windows
    2. PC + UNIX variant
    3. Mac

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchiDna View Post
    he is 17 and made a "rational decision"? lol! keep dreaming... what's the girl with the Mac's name?
    Huh? Girl with the MACs name? Or was it computer with the girls name... LISA?

    Have all you mac heads seen this site - Maceinstein. There is only one word to describe this guy... legend.

    Not that I'd want to bring this site into the gutter... but he also has Mac Chic Of The Month... MCOTM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Mike - don't start me on IT support (is that an illogical combination of two words), I spent far too many years in IT and I'm sooooo glad to be out of it!
    For those that havent seen this...


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    ChangeThis :: This is Your Buyology

    why people buy macs, pepsi, landrovers, burger king.... its a religious experience fellas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchiDna View Post
    ChangeThis :: This is Your Buyology

    why people buy macs, pepsi, landrovers, burger king.... its a religious experience fellas...
    Interesting read...

    I'm there on some counts, not on others...

    I love my Mac gear, but based more on performance / reliability... If they lose this I will look around.. I did not buy my iPhone because it was Apple, I got it for its interface etc... I waited for crowds to finish before I got it too.... Well after the release date.
    Coke.... Tastes better than Pepsi.. I drink it for taste... If another drink tasted the same I'd drink it, no question.
    Religion - I am not a believer.. No effect here
    Landrover - Evokes a passion also driven by great memories.... I also have great memories from trips in a lot of my previous rides

    But yes, and excellent read!

    Thanks for posting it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie2 View Post
    Its one of the only industries I know of where you pay for a product / service, and then when they didnt 'get it right' the first time - They can charge you again to come out and fix it!!!!!
    Except that on each occasion the tweak or fix may have been 'right' but, as you know, code is now so damned complex and time dependent that small changes might have no or a huge effect on the system. Ah the joys of object oriented code.

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    But back to Mac.... OS X is now a fully certified, recognised UNIX OS...
    Annoying thing is when you say that to Windows-philes they look at you blank

    "Like wots unix, like does that mean I gotta git a degree or like sumthin"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Should we have a poll
    What computer platform do you use at home?
    1. PC + Windows
    2. PC + UNIX variant
    3. Mac
    Or all of the above

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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Wish I still had a VMS system

    Even better than UNIX
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    I spent far too many years in IT and I'm sooooo glad to be out of it!
    Ah VMS, now that was a real man's operating system.

    Are you an ex-DIGITAL employee by any chance? There were quite a few up in your part of the NT back "in the day" when I was in DEC.


    For the record, and back to the thread, I have a Mac at home but don't use it much these days. I have more than 10 PC's/laptops running various versions of Windows (server and workstation) plus a few Linux machines, and a couple of VMware servers to run more virtual Windows and Linux boxes.

    None of my clients use Macs anymore. Yes, I work in IT consulting to private companies and Government agencies.

    In my personal opinion - other than looking cool at a premuim price, there is no compelling reason to use a Mac for personal or business use given the "bang for buck" of a Mac versus a PC (e.g. Dell desktop or laptop).

    If you'd like to pay my exorbitant hourly rate, I could tell you the same thing but in a much more long-winded and diplomatic way Here's the abridged and not-so-politically-correct version...


    • If you want your computing time to be a religous experience and fancy yourself as a rebellious, avant-garde type who won't be told by "the Man" what is good for you - unless that man is Steve Jobs - then you've probably already got a Mac and I'm wasting my breath/typing.
    • If you just hate Microsoft and everything it stands for, then get the latest version of Ubuntu and OpenOffice, which will run on almost any PC made in the last 5 years. Best of all, it costs nothing.
    • However, if you want to have the widest range of hardware, software and support options available you're pretty well stuck with using a PC and Windows.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulP38a View Post
    Ah VMS, now that was a real man's operating system.

    Are you an ex-DIGITAL employee by any chance? There were quite a few up in your part of the NT back "in the day" when I was in DEC.
    No not Ex-DEC just many years with DEC equipment - PDP's, VAX, K10 etc.

    You left out one key issue in your abridged description.

    If you want a computer that works out of the box, doesn't need a lot of tweaking, fiddling, understanding what's going on. You should have a Mac.

    If you want one that's going to cost a lot less than a Mac, require a good understanding to get setup and then after that not waste a lot of your time, get a PC and a variant of Linux.

    Personally I hate tinkering with computers now days. That's really the only reason I got a Mac over a Linux box. But what made me switch was Vista because as I mentioned I hate tinkering.
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