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                                                3rd December 2010, 11:23 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			How to confirm everything is ok for tyres to be fitted
		
		
				
					
					
				
				
		
			
				
					Hi All,
I recently fitted a 2” lift kit from suspension stuff and am now ready to fit some tyres.  After a lot of reading I’ve decided to go with the Coopers STT 265/75/16 but before I head down to the shop I want to ensure everything is in order for these to fit.  
  I have read many reviews about lift kits and them not giving a full 2” lift, so I was wondering how I could measure my lift to ensure I will now have enough clearance for these to fit.
  I have already trimmed a bit of my front bumper as I read that these tyres will rub there and I know I will have to adjust my steering stops before driving home to avoid rubbing.
  Also would it be safer to do the camel cut before heading to the shop, or will this make no difference driving home on the hwy?
   
  Thanks heaps for your help.
   
  Dan
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                3rd December 2010, 11:49 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Camel Cut (or tin snips in car just in case) would be good idea...
 
Decent spoon drain etc can flex into the guard...
 
 
IMO You're actually at more risk running the BLoopers 

(Useless tread losing, block chunking, delaminating pieces of crap that they are)
 
 
JUST TO BE CLEAR:
These are my opinions based on 1st hand experiences with this brand of rubber.
The damage caused by several delaminated tyres of this manufacture, including explosive failures at speed, entire tread bands peeling off, fractured sidewall cords and subsequent failures (at speed).
Not forgetting the constant chipping of the tread blocks!
We are forced to run them on work vehicles and suffer more failures than ever wearing them out.
My work vehicle has new (500km) rubber - I am keeping a photo log of the wear, chipping and kms..
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                3rd December 2010, 12:57 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks Tombie.  Ill do the cut before heading to the tyre shop to be safe.
 
Man why did you have to comment on the coopers :| I’ve spent weeks going back and forth between them and the BFGs.   From the reviews I’ve read it seems I could get a bad bunch whichever brand I go for, maybe I’ll just flip a coin and let that be the decider.
  Also what’s the best way to measure my lift to ensure it has given me enough for these tyres?
  Thanks again for your help!!
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                3rd December 2010, 04:15 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Hi Danno,
 
We all have our opinions on tyres.
Personally I think either is a great choice. I work in the Forestry game and I have run 5 sets of the STT's to date and not had a single issue - most of the surfaces we run on are far worse than most will ever be "normally" subjected to. I am currently running the new BFG's KM2 and so far so good also (25K)
 
Chris
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                3rd December 2010, 09:34 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					The old tyre debate hey!
I have had many tyres by now and am currently running the Coopers ATR'sLT(light Truck). make sure you get them and I see no issues.
Not had any issues, oops thats actually a blatant lie, I had a spanner pierce my tyre. That is considered a fluke and hopefully wont happen to you.
In terms of size, I originally had 265's put on and they did rub at full lock just like the tyre shop said. I decided on 235/75/16's and they are wicked.
Great road feel, had a tiny camel cut done as car had same tyres on before just that they scraped ever so slightly.
With less width there is less noise, wear on drive train and steering components and are available in more places.
Just my experience and that of some of the guys I drive with also, not all are Landies either.
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                3rd December 2010, 10:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					You will hear horror stories of all tyres most of the time it comes down to your own preference. As for the ride height the best thing will be to measure from the Hub center to the wheel arch and compare the difference to standard. I know my 2" Dobinson springs from Suspensionstuff came in at a 2.5" lift.
Cheers, James.
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                4th December 2010, 07:11 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					theres nothing wrong with the STT's. I have used them and the ATR's plus BFG and Mickey T's.
You have to remember that rubber is soft, rocks are hard, so are tree roots, shale, boulders, bitumen and metal. If you drive hard and play hard, your rubber boots are going to suffer 
just my 2c worth
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                4th December 2010, 09:35 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					None of the vehicles running GY MTRs here have had issues...
None of them have delaminated or blown..
Never had a Yokohama, BFG or MT fail...
 
But had plenty of ST-C and STT tyres let go...
 
And now we're on a supplier who only fits Coopers.. So all the Goodyear rubber will wear out and disappear.
 
BFG had a bad run a few years ago (about 7yrs) but have since improved back to the benchmark they are known for.
 
But hey... Not my dosh!
 
And I'd also look at going 235-85-16 over 265-75... Better vehicle dynamics, Camel vehicle size, well priced and wont hurt fuel consumption as bad.
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                4th December 2010, 01:07 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Sorry guys the last thing I wanted was to start another tyre thread 
  I think I will end up going for the 235s, my only concern with them was their performance in heavy mud.  I live out east Victoria and it can get quite muddy here.  From what I've read they are just as good as the 265s in the mud.
Thanks Grover for the ride height info.  I measured it up this morning and I got 20.5 inches in the back and 20 inches in the front 
.  On discoweb they list stock height as 18.5 front and 19.5 back.  Look like I only got a 1 - 1.5 inch lift 
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Will this impact the fitment of these tyres ?  I'm guess it might mean I just need to cut a little more metal (and wont be getting my winch bar on)?
Thanks again 
Dan
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
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                                                4th December 2010, 03:28 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					In heavy mud the narrower tyre tends to dig into the base (unless aired down more) so tends to grab the solid stuff (in my experience)
 
I'm also a bit of a ****** though 
 and run wide tyres on most vehicles 
 they suck more power to push along and in heavy going its noticeable too!
 
Doubt you will regret the 235's... If I hadnt got 18's I would of stayed on 32's and gone 235's
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	 
	
	
 
		
		
		
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				
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