Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
Sorry don't agree - get both.

The RAVE tends to be for mechanics who know what they are doing whereas the Haynes is more for dummies like me. A combination of both is the way to go.

I have both and tend to use the Haynes a little more as the RAVE often jumps form one process to another and assumes the mechanic knows what has happened - the Haynes tends to fill in the gaps.

I have a genuine workshop manual for my RRS and it assumes too much knowledge and as such I wish I also had a Haynes for it but they do not exist.

Garry
the problem I have with Haynes is they are sometimes glaringly wrong, and will miss critical checks and steps... (replacing Orings, one use fastners torque settings on minor fastenings, shim tolerances, ringclip replacements to name a few)

The trick with RAVE is that its not a linear book like you're used to so it doesnt fit the search pattern and instruction patterns you're used to. They're written to take up the minimum amount of book space. Once you wrap your head around it its not to bad. That said, I still have my swear at it moments when I have to dig for a bit of information thats hiding somewhere other than where I want to find it.