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21st December 2013, 03:29 PM
#1
More overheating problems
Afternoon all
I have just purchased a 3.9 litre V8 disco 1998 vintage. I picked it up from Melbourne and drove it back to Adelaide to be regoed and then drove it to Newcastle for xmas.
Info.
There is an after market temp gauge sender unit fitted in line in the top radiator hose.and a dash mounted gauge.
The bloke I bought it off said he recently had the tanks off the radiator. So i am assuming he had it rodded.
Ambient temperatures during the drive were in the late 30's early 40's
After market temp gauge reads about 105 to 110 cruising along at 110-120kms an hour but does creep up to 118 with AC on
OEM gauge reads at just below halfway until temp gets up above 100 then climbs to about 3/4 from 105 degrees to 112 degrees
Above 115 degrees it sits on the upper white line. I usually shut the AC of at this point due to worries about cooking it.
Thermostat appears to be working at around the correct temp.
I removed two spotlights that were blocking the radiator a bit but have not noticed a big change. I also noticed a couple of thermo fans sitting in front of the Auto cooler that seem to me would block a fair amount of flow when you are cruising along at 110 km/h.
I had a search on here and found a few threads relating to high temps but no one seemed to be running at the temps im getting so now im a little worried.
My Questions are
1. what is the max operating temp these things should be run at?
2. Are the thermo fans an aftermarket add on and are they neccesary?
3. Can anyone recommend a better radiator to get rid of the heat quicker?
4. Should i pull the thermostat and bin it in the hopes of getting more flow?
5. Do all discos cooling systems run this close to the edge in terms of dissipating heat.
6. What else should I be looking at.
Thanks very much in advance for any help.
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21st December 2013, 03:53 PM
#2
Never ever Bin a thermostat... They do more than just regulate flow.. They provide flow control as well, ensuring all the water galleries get flow through them (usually towards rear of block loses flow if no restriction is in place)
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21st December 2013, 03:55 PM
#3
Your vehicle is running too hot!
Front fans are for A/C - you need them!
They also assist in severe heat situations.
Engine driven fan may not be functioning properly - viscous hub. Check this...
Are you sure the radiator was rodded? May need checking.
How is the coolant? Clean? Do you lose coolant at all?
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21st December 2013, 05:01 PM
#4
Thanks Tombie
Will have a look at the fan . Didnt lose any coolant. And the coolant looks good.
I cant recall exactly wether he said it was rodded or not. I just assumed he had because i couldnt see any other reason why he would have had the tanks off.
Just as a side note when driving in low 30s temps with AC on it will sit on between 80 and 90 degrees it just seems that it is very close to the edge of what the system can do because once the ambient gets up the cooling system just cant keep up.
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25th December 2013, 02:27 PM
#5
The original gauge never moves above about one-third up the dial with or without the air-con, which starts the thermo fans, and whether towing or not in our 300Tdi auto. It had a new radiator 3 years ago.
I suggest you get your radiator looked at. Our brass original lasted 15 years and so far it seems the brass replacement is likely to go as long.
You might also check the transmission oil cooler is clean and working fine. Also check if your intercooler needs cleaning. I assume you've already tried a new air filter?
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30th December 2013, 07:56 AM
#6
Thanks Mick.
I have changed the air filter and plugs and adjusted the timing the Auto cooler does look a little second hand and there is some damage i will have a better look when i get it home. I havent had a chance to test it out since i have made those slight changes so i will take it as it comes. Radiators dont seem to be too expensive so i dare say a change out will be on the cards just for my own peace of mind.
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30th December 2013, 11:12 AM
#7
From memory a new radiator cost just over $400 when we did it before going to the Cape. I didn't want to take any chances with cooling up there.
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30th December 2013, 06:54 PM
#8
Hi Crowey
Do yourself a big favour and change the thermostat before going any further.Its a simple and cheap potential cause to eliminate ($16 and less than 1 hour of your time).I too thought that mine was working ok only to find that when I pulled it out it was permanently stuck in the half open position.
My issue was the engine taking a long time to warm up rather than overheating. I am however sure if I hadn't changed it out over time I would be experiencing the problems that you have described on hot days.From memory I fitted an 88 deg thermostat to my 97 Disco V8.
Does your viscous fan coupling drive when started from cold?.They generally do for a short time then slip (goes quiet) until the temp. is high enough to operate it.Another quick check worth making.
Hope this saves some time and $$$$$$$
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30th December 2013, 09:09 PM
#9
Good point 98. It may be stuck half open and not allowing full flow. I'll pick one up and do the swap. Also found my vacuum advance is not working. Not sure what if any effect that would have on temps. Fan spins on start up have not really watched it long enough to see if it stops after a while. I will investigate further.
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31st December 2013, 11:10 AM
#10
At what point does the A/C shut off.
Mine does this occassionally when on hot days, loaded and up hills on long trips from Albany to Perth. My after market gauge sits on the bolt on the thermostat housing and it will go to about 104 before it happens, but I thought it was supposed to be higher than that????
Thanks
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