Thread: Standard coil spring - different variants of or wrong springs?

Just found this site land rover spring specifications / land rover spring specifications which indicates that:
* red/green is the rear passenger side spring for a Defender 110 HD - although these are listed at 15.5" yet the ones I have are only measuring 14.5" (perhaps old age sag?). Big difference in the spring rate - 330 lb/inch where the normal fronts are only 133!
* yellow/yellow is the front right spring for a Defender 110 or rear springs for a Disco 1 - they measure up correctly at about 14.5" length.

The site indicates that left and right are different with different colour markings.

According to it, correct for a Disco 1 V8 is:

Front right - blue
Front left - blue/white
Rear - white/white or yellow/yellow (or for 90-93 only red/pink).


EDIT: I cleaned around the two front springs and both, left and right, are blue - can't find a trace of white on either. Cannot find a trace of colour on either of the rears.

So perhaps correct springs for the rear and incorrect for the front then?

As far as I recall, blue is std v8 disco front, both l and r in rhd.

Edit that, blue is std rr rear, Wichita are a common swap into discos for a mild lift, maybe 10-20mm and a slight rate increase. 133 to 150 lb

I wouldnt' rely on the colours marked on the springs.
After ~20 years, you'd expect that some previous owner had changed them at some point.

Take your red/green springs: If you count the number of coils, on yours you get 7.75, whereas on the website they state 8 coils for the red/green spring.
At at 300lb/in, you'd expect to see much thicker wire thickness than what you have there.

So, the more than likely explanation of 'your springs' would be that they're replacements, of unknown branding/manufacturer, which goign by the specs on the website link equate to the blue/green blue/yellow springs in the table with 7.75 coils. They're closer in length too being 15.19 and 14.8 " respectively.

LR uses paint coodes for their springs too:

If you go by RAVEs specs(general specs, springs) .. the V8(RHD) should have blue up front ... and rears can be brown/green or orange/orange(from original).

So in terms of part No's, going off RAVE, you should have 572315(blue) up front and on the rears was ANR4352(2x orange) .. but those oranges were superceded by ANR3477 which is the brown/green.

Could your red/green be in fact brown/green .. sometimes colour fades or changes over time .. red?? .. brown??? .. same difference sometimes!
brown/green is 208lb/in and 15.2" length. Would make more sense than the red/green specs.

If your D1 is '98(same here), then your VIN would be either a VA or WA(dunno of any XA D1's) ... so keep an eye out for the VIN specced on any parts. Usually you'll see "up to MA" and "MA onwards"

OH! .. and before I forget why I initially wanted to reply:
On my RRC, back in the day, it was hard to come by info and data as to what all these specs were.
My RRC had the same dreaded lean to the drivers side effect(empty!), so I measured the bump stop clearances.
Back then, it was a bit harder to come by parts and data, so at the time, all could do that was easy back then was to swap springs from LHS to RHS, and back. That is, LHF to RHF, and same with the rears.
Worked OK ish, not ideal, but far less lean to the left than before. Springs were all shot, but persevered for another 5 or so years, after I found Rangie Spares(now LRA) who sold me the spacers to fix it properly.
I think maybe 5 or a bit more years later, the driver rear finally cracked! .. and I did the proper thing and get new springs all round.
Can't remember what brand, or specs .. they felt RRC soft(which I liked), so tons of body roll and stuff. But I had fitted poly bushes at the same time, so lots of changes at the same time.

If you're into trying to sort stuff before you need to buy stuff to sort it, try changing one side to the other.

Originally Posted by AK83

If your D1 is '98(same here), then your VIN would be either a VA or WA(dunno of any XA D1's) ... so keep an eye out for the VIN specced on any parts. Usually you'll see "up to MA" and "MA onwards"

It's a WA VIN. Thanks for that tip.


Got ahold of JC this morning who advised that the red/green springs should be 300TDI D1 fronts. Apparently they're a slightly higher spring rate as the diesel motor setup is about 70kg heavier - both interchangeable. The yellows should be the correct rears.

Rave offers the following in General Specification Data - Road Spring Data:

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So far I've fitted the the red/green to the front which has resulted in (hub to guard measurements):
Front drivers side - 445mm (25mm increase)
Front passenger side - 460mm (20mm increase)
So I'm 5mm closer now... Maybe it's the rears are having an effect on the front as the different left and right in the rear is more significant than the front difference now...?

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I bought some bushes last night and they have a wide selection to fix (mask) different problems. Bushes to fix leans, steering pull, castor correction maybe something there that can help you.
Cheers Jim

Those sprigs are toast. I would not use them.

Originally Posted by Red90

Those sprigs are toast. I would not use them.

Which ones - all or..? How do you tell?

Prob from your measurements. I have rrc rears in the front of my v8 D1 and find them good, but have 2nd battery bullbar and winch too. Prob just a whisker higher than std