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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    I'd be more likely to convert to Electric than spend $15K ++ on a new diesel.

    Wonder how long till Cummins sell crate electric drop in power packs.

    PowerDrive for Electric Trucks | Cummins Inc.

    Not sure about the long term viability of spending big $$ on Internal Combustion conversions / upgrades anymore . (or indeed an entire new ICE vehicle)
    ICE power will be around for a long time yet. As will the fuel to power them.
    There's far too much money invested in vehicles and equipment to just throw it away. Apparently, the major suppliers of EV batteries are flat out meeting the current demand from car manufacturers.
    I agree that EVs are part of the future vehicle mix, but they won't be as big as Bill wanted them to be in the short term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    ICE power will be around for a long time yet. As will the fuel to power them.
    There's far too much money invested in vehicles and equipment to just throw it away. Apparently, the major suppliers of EV batteries are flat out meeting the current demand from car manufacturers.
    I agree that EVs are part of the future vehicle mix, but they won't be as big as Bill wanted them to be in the short term.
    Im not talking about the world in general. We don't make cars anymore so local politics isn't going to influence what happens here. The rest of the world is moving to EV in a hurry , no one will be making ICE in 10 years so we will get what the rest of the world demands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Im not talking about the world in general. We don't make cars anymore so local politics isn't going to influence what happens here. The rest of the world is moving to EV in a hurry , no one will be making ICE in 10 years so we will get what the rest of the world demands.
    i think EV tech is still far from being able to replace diesel for industrial or off road applications. oil industry still invests huge money in exploration and production. they have huge influence on world political stage. i don't see americans phasing out ICEs and basically cutting off one of their biggest sources of revenue. not for a while now. how do you start a war over renewable resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausto79 View Post
    i think EV tech is still far from being able to replace diesel for industrial or off road applications. oil industry still invests huge money in exploration and production. they have huge influence on world political stage. i don't see americans phasing out ICEs and basically cutting off one of their biggest sources of revenue. not for a while now. how do you start a war over renewable resources?


    GM Must Adapt Or Die: A Lesson For U.S. Automakers

    General Motors goes all-in on electric vehicles - Chicago Tribune

    GM Is Going All Electric, Will Ditch Gas- and Diesel-Powered Cars

    Thats Just GM

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    Still not convinced. One thing that did occur to me a few months ago though, when i was working on a large road project that is designed for a long way into the future, is that in a few years time we will probably all be flying automated drones and roads will become obsolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausto79 View Post
    Still not convinced. One thing that did occur to me a few months ago though, when i was working on a large road project that is designed for a long way into the future, is that in a few years time we will probably all be flying automated drones and roads will become obsolete.
    I dont think so, not until antigravity is invented.
    Efficiency wise it takes a lot less energy to move a given weight along the ground (on wheels) than to provide enough thrust to lift the object into the air , albeit once its in the air it takes bugger all to move it along.

    The future of off roading then, .... Please give that man a bag of cable ties.


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    i have to say the Cummins customer service is top notch here. The guy was very quick to answer and very informative. Took his time to answer my stupid questions.

    here's the convo after he told me the 2.8 was 15k:

    Me: sorry to bother you again. Do you guys supply also the Cummins 4BT engines?

    Him: Not as an Automotive Engine, only 4BTA off highway industrial Engines.

    Me: Is there much difference? Could it be converted to an automotive application?

    Him: It is 24V so you would need to change to 12V electrics. The aftercooler may stick out the bonnet so you would have to convert it back to a 4BT. Although it would look awesome with it hanging out.

    Plus the turbo is a high mount arrangement, So that would also be hanging out the bonnet. You would have to fit a different exhaust manifold and convert it to a low mount turbo arrangement like most Automotive Engines to reduce the height of the Engine.

    Plus the Engine does not have an Automotive Governor so the throttle would probably be very touchy

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