Thread: opinions on this lift kit

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

But providing the driver is aware of the change in handling characteristics a spring lift of 4+ inches is achievable without them.

I gotta pull that up, they'll drive like crap......like yea I'd drive it, but wouldn't let the missus

2" lift, put it in and see what you think........better yet, actually go and get a front end alignment, and see where the castor is, if its out by 2 degrees, then fit some bushes

Should be +3

my alignment is fine, the lift is on my list of things to do along with a snorkel and winch bar

Originally Posted by dirtdawg

my alignment is fine, the lift is on my list of things to do along with a snorkel and winch bar

Sigh... you will alter the CASTOR not toe, when you lift it, the only REAL way to find out the error in the castor angle is on a wheel aligning machine, which tells you the angle, then you have a figure and what it should be, then you know how much to correct the castor

Mine has a 2" Ride pro lift and 235 85 16 rubber and I have found that it does lack in the CASTER (I put in upper case due to the brain fade I had last time I spoke about wheel alignments and called it Camber and got pulled up about it several times) and has a tendancy to follow and changes in the road and is pretty interesting on roads like the Hume where the trucks wear in grooves pretty badly.

Mrs Mc doesnt really like to drive it that much but does when she has to.

So is MCROVER’S experience typical? Does a typical “off the shelf” 2 inch lift adversely affect the handling? Would appreciate any ideas from people who have done this because I am just about to change the shocks on my D1, and was considering the lift as well, but after reading this and many other threads on this site not so sure if it’s worth it?

[devil's advocate]
buy a defender you can fit 35's with a 2 inch lift and no other changes
[/devil's advocate]

at the end of the day it's all illegal anyway unless engineered so play safe... do a search, its caused plenty of undue tension and arguements, but it boils down to (Australia wide implementation sooner or later) a maximum of 2 inches of total lift (or drop if you are that way inclined) via a combination of springs, body lift and increased tyre size from the factory specs is legal without engineering.

Simply put, your insurance runs the chance of being voided without engineering in the event of an accident.

Originally Posted by discotone

So is MCROVER’S experience typical? Does a typical “off the shelf” 2 inch lift adversely affect the handling? Would appreciate any ideas from people who have done this because I am just about to change the shocks on my D1, and was considering the lift as well, but after reading this and many other threads on this site not so sure if it’s worth it?

An off the shelf lift for a D1 won't effect the castor, most, if not all off the shelf lifts for Discos are 40mm or 1.5" over bumpstop height and as high as workshops will go for Discos, that's D1 and D2s.

Anything over this will create handling problems (ie) wandering, driveline vibrations, mid corner turn in and so on, for the D1 it's an easy fix by slotting your swivle balls to corect castor, for the D2 it's a tad harder and more expensive.

Corrected swivle balls for a D1 are around $300.

Baz.

Originally Posted by EchiDna

[devil's advocate]
buy a defender you can fit 35's with a 2 inch lift and no other changes
[/devil's advocate]

at the end of the day it's all illegal anyway unless engineered so play safe... do a search, its caused plenty of undue tension and arguements, but it boils down to (Australia wide implementation sooner or later) a maximum of 2 inches of total lift (or drop if you are that way inclined) via a combination of springs, body lift and increased tyre size from the factory specs is legal without engineering.

Simply put, your insurance runs the chance of being voided without engineering in the event of an accident.

From what all the information that is available on the new national legislation it will be a MAX 6" lift, no more than 2" body, no more than 2" suspention (from standard maximum hight at dry weight) and no more than 2" tyres.

Unless more has been said on it recently from someone really in the know, thats what my insurance co. said they would cover me for even after the new legislation and it is the same as 3 other 4wd specialists (that im good freinds with) have been told by Vicroads nearly word for word so Im pretty sure that will be right.

As far as my lack of camber, I have driven another Disco (1 year older) which had virtually no change in driving feel with the same kit so it may change a bit from car to car depending how the suspention has worn etc.

I will get around to checking all the front end measurments one day when I have the time to see if something is bent or worn shich may be causing me more problems than the lift itself.