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    Rebuild or newer model

    Hi All, my 97, 300 Tdi Discovery is at the point where it is getting fairly worn out. It's done 330,000km and there seems to be a bit of blow-by, a fair amount of play in the drive line.

    I bought it for $6K, and decided to change it from manual to auto, bought a ex-Hong Kong Tdi transmission, transfer case and front and rear axles with around 70,000km, with the intention of swapping over the whole drive train but it has sat in the shed for a year as apart from a bit of wear, the existing one is still going strong. I've added a Jase intercooler, 265-75 tyres, 2" lift, dual aircon and sun-roofs, cargo barrier, drawers, inverter, dual batteries, winch, Hella 4000's and HID inserts and a few other thing.

    Thanks to the resources boom and changing jobs at just the right time I now have a bit more money, and the option are now to re-build the engine, fit the the drivetrain ( maybe overhaul the transmission just in case), add a pair of Tru-track diffs ( maybe 4.11 gearing) fit diesel-gas and a new Jase style turbo. All up, spend about $10K more rebuilding the car to better than new.

    The other option is to sell it and get something newer, like maybe a TD5 or Defender - spend around $15-20K + whatever I get for my Disco.

    Are the newer one worth the extra money, or am better off sticking with what I've got.



    Iain
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    In either case your never going to get your money back no matter what option you take.

    If your happy with vehicle, if its in reasonable nick spend the money and upgrade it as its cheaper than buying somebody else second problems which eventually your going to have spend money on to upgrade maintain or replace anyway.

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    IMO a Rebuilt is a Much better Option , then you know what condition your engine's in.

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    Rebuild for sure. You know your vehicle and you must like it seeing your considering keeping it as an option. You'd have a great all round vehicle if you do what your thinking.

    Xav

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    I had decided that a rebuild is the way to go - just makes more sense to end up with a car almost as good as new for less money. Most of it I'll DIY, kinda makes it more fun anyway. It will take a while, just going down the list and still keeping it running in between the major work.

    This is the list, please feel free to suggest things that I make have forgotten. Starting from the front and in no particular order:

    HID light inserts for OEM lights and the Bosch fog light/drivings light on the bull bar
    Electric fans ( for normal work) - I'll retro fit the viscous fan when I go far out bush.
    Clean out radiator ( it had a new core 2 years ago)
    Rebuild engine - everything to as new spec - bearings, re-bore & pistons ( if necessary), rings, grind valves, timing belt, water pump, new engine mounts, (is a new oil pump necessary)
    New injectors
    Rebuilt or new fuel pump ( are rebuilds possible?)
    New vacuum pump
    New alternator
    New hoses everywhere
    New Variable vane turbo from Jase
    Fit replacement axles, front and back with tru-trac diff centres, new bearings, new rubber bushes, maxidrive rear axles and flanges, tie rod ends, a-frame ball joint and anything else that can wear out
    New bilsteins all round
    Replace all uni joints
    Fit auto transmission and transfer case, new mounts.
    Overhaul all the brakes calipers and fit new discs, new brake lines and "Greenstuff" pads.
    Diesel Gas installation
    Supplementary fuel tank - 45-50lt
    DIY Rock sliders/steps - and something to protect the gas tank
    DIY Rear bar

    Options are:
    4.11 gearing - I have 265-75 tyres, is it worth it considering the new turbo and gas install
    Better seats - either after market ( Recaros or similar) or later model seats

    Other things:
    Figure out why the front A/C system is so weak - hardly blows at all out the middle vents but can really blow hard out the foot well vents.

    Accessories ( Part time fitting)
    Fridge
    HID light inserts for the 4 x Hella 181 on the roof rack


    Is there anything else I've missed?


    Iain

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    Get an older model, the real thing, the creme de la creme of Land Rovers, an Isuzu engined LR.
    URSUSMAJOR

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    By the sound of all that work I think you should buy a well worn auto model and rebuild it then sell yours when your finished.

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    Iain, convert your rear tail shaft from the rubber donut to a uni joint style, the flange is the same as the front and tail shaft the same as a Rangie classic, (check for wear in the splines) I have worn out 4 donuts due to a mild lift but more flex.

    I had mine rebuilt and balanced at driveline services (Archerfield or Strathpine)

    Forget the true tracs and go for part time lockers ARB, Maxi-drives or McNamara. Full time lockers can make your car nervous on the road.

    Don't forget to re-bush all your suspension and body components (driveline also do a kit) The back end of mine is a little wobbly.

    I also have brought stuff in from UK and have found that they have a great market for land rovers and way cheaper than here.

    Have a look in a LRM mag for sites.

    Good luck in which ever way you go, I too have the same problem ahead however I have the new motor and need the auto fixed, I am also wanting 3 point seatbelts in the back due to having 3 kids (safety)

    I am interested in how much all the work Jase does as too how much horsepower you get in return. A chipped TD5 gives you 130kw +

    Horses for courses

    Danny
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    Don't Follow Me, I'm in a "Land Rover", You WON'T make it.

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    I already have the uni joint rear shaft. I read through all the comparisons, and for what I want, the Trr-tracks are the best option for me - and about $1000-$1500 cheaper. As far as making it nervous on the road, I've read the exact opposite, it makes it more stable, especially the front one.

    I'm also interested about the extra power all the mods make, but to be honest I want the better fuel consumption - that's why I'm doing all the mods as if you make it all more efficient, then if you don't use the extra power, you improve the fuel economy, but it would be nice for a bit more go up some of the steeper hills. With a 2" lift and 265/75 tyres I don't want to go fast - I have a V12 XJ-S for that :-)

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