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Thread: Extremely hot heater matrix. Hot in cabin.

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by clubagreenie View Post
    Where would you find a small on/off vac switch for it?
    Any sleazy wrecking yard, they are commonly used to switch on emission control devices, a/c fast idles etc. Most Mazda /Laser vehicles have a couple screwed to the firewall, I think even some D1's have one on top of the charcoal canister. You need the vacuum supply to be off a reservoir/heater control system otherwise whern you accelerate the vac disappears and the heater comes back on!




    Pic shows an installed 4 port valve where the lpg was installed in the heater circuit, and I wanted flow to continue when the heater was turned off. It would easily go in the twin heater hose system on the D2. Only thing is hose size, this is 16mm. I don't know if there is a 19mm version, would be worth checking with a catalogue or parts store.
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    my 2c, is that the ventilation system is not closing off the heater air flow port , the heater matrix is actively hot at all times as part of the quick warm up cycle thru the thermo-stat, its the primary coolant circit,radiator for the motor, with the main radiator at the front of the car as the back up,
    have you tried cycling manually thru the ventilation output settings, instead of leaving it on auto air, that may free it up, and yes the aircond will never beat the heater matrix at full ever,

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    FYI
    Heater matrix
    The heater matrix is fitted in the heater assembly inside the passenger compartment. Two pipes pass through the
    bulkhead into the engine compartment and provide coolant flow to and from the matrix. The pipes from the bulkhead
    are connected to the matrix, sealed with 'O' rings and clamped with circular rings.
    The matrix is constructed from aluminium with two end tanks interconnected with tubes. Aluminium fins are located
    between the tubes and conduct heat from the hot coolant flowing through the tubes. Air from the heater assembly is
    warmed as it passes through the matrix fins. The warm air is then distributed in to the passenger compartment as
    required.
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    HEATING AND VENTILATION, DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION, Description.

    When the engine is running, coolant from the engine is constantly circulated through the heater matrix.


    HEATING AND VENTILATION
    80-6
    DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

    Control flaps
    Control flaps are installed in the heater assembly to control the temperature and distribution of air. Blend flaps control
    the temperature and distribution flaps control the distribution.
    Temperature and distribution control
    Figure shows flaps set for medium heat to face level and footwell outlets
    1
    Windscreen/Side windows outlet

    2
    Heater assembly casing

    3
    Air inlet

    4
    Heater matrix

    5
    Front footwells outlet

    6
    Rear footwells outlet

    7
    Face level outlet

    Blend flaps:
    Two sets of three blend flaps, one LH and one RH, regulate the flow of air through the heater matrix and
    a heater matrix bypass, to control the temperature of the air leaving the heater assembly. The two sets of blend flaps
    operate independently to allow different temperatures to be set for the LH and RH outlets.
    Each blend flap is attached to a spindle. The end of each spindle extends through the side of the heater casing and
    is attached to a common lever mechanism on the related side of the casing. A control cable is installed between the
    lever mechanism and the related temperature knob on the control panel. When the flow is split between the bypass
    and the heater matrix, the two flows mix downstream of the heater matrix to produce an even air temperature at the
    individual outlets.

    Distribution flaps:
    Separate distribution flaps are installed to control the flow of air to the footwells, windscreen/side
    windows and the LH and RH face level outlets. The distribution flaps are attached to spindles that extend through the
    RH side of the heater casing and are attached to a common lever mechanism. A control cable is installed between

    the lever mechanism and the distribution knob on the control panel.

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    Must be problem mate. My D2 is never hot on the floor vents unless heater is on. My D1 gets warm around the trans tunnel but I have always put that down to the auto and different design whereas my D2 manual is cool.

    Cheers

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    Thanks for everyone's input. I appreciate you all discussing it with me.

    Had I not had a D2 whose aircon was excellent previously, I'd accept the "that's just how it works" angle some of you have suggested.

    I've done some googling and come up with another possibility. It seems some people have had the issue when there's an air-lock in the heater matrix. Eg after a poor bleeding when it has been disconnected (and I know this one has been).

    I gave it a half arsed bleed last night and it seemed to improve, but the ambient temp outside was way down also. I might disconnect the heater matrix and flush it and see what happens.

    Anyone got a suggestion for removing a rubber hose that wont budge?

    Wil

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    Hi Wil2k<

    Just wondering how you went, as Im currently going through the same thing after getting my car back after having the core replaced it sometimes gets really hot on the side of the tunnel at my feet.
    Was going to have a poke around before taking it back to the machanics.
    cheers

    bronson

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