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Thread: Are the TD5 nuts and bolts metric, imperial or both?

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    pretty much since someone bought up M(x) as a head size...

    M(x) is a bolt shank size (aka a touch larger than the major diameter of the thread) and in the metric (and the UNC/UNF) world of bolts is absolutely nothing to do with head size.

    Now if were were talking BSF, BSC or BSW that'd be different, in those thread sizes the AF size of the head is directly calculated from the thread size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
    M(x) is a bolt shank size (aka a touch larger than the major diameter of the thread) and in the metric (and the UNC/UNF) world of bolts is absolutely nothing to do with head size.
    The shank size is different to the head size but there are international standards which define the standard head size for m(x) fasteners, so there is a defined relationship between shank size and head size. Under the ISO standard an M8 fastener has a head size of 13mm for example.

    RAVE indicates that ISO standard is used for metric fittings on the D2.

    BoltHeadChart.png

    Edit: The DIN sizes are actually the same as the ISO precision metric sizing. Ignore the ISO/ANSI sizes as this seems to refer to a different standard.
    Last edited by OffTrack; 6th May 2012 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Remove link to incorrect chart.

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    Bet I can name 3 bolts on any td5 that do not comply to that standard. And thats without even thinking about it or going off the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Bet I can name 3 bolts on any td5 that do not comply to that standard. And thats without even thinking about it or going off the engine.
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    Hi Dave,

    It looks like there are ISO Standards and ISO Standards.

    BS-3692-2001 ISO metric precision hexagon bolts, screws and nuts gives head dimensions that look to be the same as DIN rather than Australian Metric or ANSI/ISO.

    BS-3692 lists:

    M5: 8mm
    M6: 10mm
    M8: 13mm
    M10: 17mm
    M12: 19mm
    M16: 24mm

    The 17mm/19mm seems more in line with the bolts on the D2, than 16mm/18mm.

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    correct..

    I still take immense joy in watching appy mechanics working on the bearings on certain landies that are still in service at amberly.

    The front axle (which has been replaced for the Nth time) will have a fairly stock standard type 10.9 bolt on it (the drive flange) as you would expect to find. The back will have the smaller headed but flanged bolts. Send them off to the RPS and the diagram shows the bolts that are on the rear and the same type on the front, they order more for the front but the new standard style bolts turn up....

    Ive gotten to the point on some jobs unless I'm ordering an OEM bolt like the headbolts, mains or bigends then a bolt is requested as

    ok, what thread do you want, what type and size head do you want on it.

    My other favorite is when people ask for an M(x) thread giving them a inhex stud version of it.
    Dave

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