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    Question SLS airbag pressure

    Anyone know roughly what the standard running pressure is in the SLS airbags?

    I'm wanting to fill mine to get the back of the vehicle off the bump stops/compressed shock absorbers. The battery is disconnected so there is no protection relief valve to stop me overfilling them.

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    The pressure will relate to the weight of the back of the vehicle. The volume of air will alter the right height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    The pressure will relate to the weight of the back of the vehicle. The volume of air will alter the right height.
    Correct, and I realise this. But there must be a ball park figure - e.g often ranges between 30 - 50psi. I'm not trying to raise it to the perfect ride height, just roughly.
    Alternatively, I'm sure the airbags and lines have a maximum pressure, if I knew that I would know what to keep it under.

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    Just inflate until the ride height is where you want it, I am sure you will have a long way to go before any damage is done to the bags

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    70 psi is off road height empty!!

    at least on mine it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twr7cx View Post
    Correct, and I realise this. But there must be a ball park figure - e.g often ranges between 30 - 50psi. I'm not trying to raise it to the perfect ride height, just roughly.
    Alternatively, I'm sure the airbags and lines have a maximum pressure, if I knew that I would know what to keep it under.
    ok
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    I recalling mine being around 70 for normal ride height.

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    I would have thought that the airbag pressure would not change with height. It would only change with vehicle weight.

    If the bags are at normal height at 70 psi, and you put more air into them, they will expand with the extra air BUT the internal pressure will remain the same. Hence will still be at 70 psi when raised.

    The ONLY thing that is creating pressure in a partially inflated air bag is the weight of the vehicle i.e. heavier vehicle = higher pressure.

    If the bag were to become fully inflated, only then will the internal pressure increase without the vehicle becoming heavier.

    So if you put 70 psi in a heavy vehicle it may not even come off the bump stops. Like wise 70 psi in a very light vehicle may lift it to max height.

    So as somebody mentioned earlier, the way to manually inflate the bags is to pump air into them until the vehicle is at the correct height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightdog View Post
    I would have thought that the airbag pressure would not change with height. It would only change with vehicle weight.
    There is a direct proportion between the air bag pressure and the vehicles height. It differs on each vehicle and differs on vehicle weight, but it's still proportionate.

    My vehicle is around 70psi for it's standard ride height with my modified suspension. At 90psi I am at offroad height. I measured these the other day. The vehicle weight has not changed, the pressure in the airbag has increased causing the airbag to expand and push the back of the vehicle higher.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freightdog View Post
    If the bags are at normal height at 70 psi, and you put more air into them, they will expand with the extra air BUT the internal pressure will remain the same. Hence will still be at 70 psi when raised.
    The airbags work exactly like a tyre. If you put more air into a tyre, the pressure does not stay the same, it goes up. Likewise with the airbag, the pressure increases if more air is put it. Yes, the airbag does expand too, but the pressure inside increases. It will not stay at the same pressure.

    The airbag does not expand to maximum size and then pressure goes up. It is a gradual expansion - pressure goes up, it expands a bit, pressure goes up more, it expands a bit more, etc.

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    My vehicle is around 70psi for it's standard ride height with my modified suspension. At 90psi I am at offroad height
    I find this interesting, I will have to try it for myself however before I am a believer.

    The airbags work exactly like a tyre.
    Not quite, the tyre is fully inflated at low pressures, the air bag is not.

    I have been thinking of an air bag more like a piston pressing down on a cylinder of air.
    If the piston has a weight on it this will create pressure within the cylinder. If you wish to raise the piston, you can put more air into the cylinder however the pressure inside the cylinder will remain the same. This is because the weight has not changed, and neither has the area of the piston.

    Likewise with the air bag, the area of the bag in contact with the vehicle has not changed, the weight has not changed, so how can the pressure change.

    This is why I am having trouble understanding what you have measured.

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