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    LCS Guest

    Smile My turn

    Folks,

    After much to-ing and fro-ing I finally went out and bought a D2 TD5. Did all the usual stuff such as dropping all the oil/fluids/hoses etc to set the car at a reasonable maintenance baseline. So every thing has been running sweet.

    And now I find myself with my first fault. Rough running, sounds like one pot is not firing at all. So I peruse this site, weigh up a few of the various options and opted to replace the Injector loom. I cleaned the ECU connection, several times. Opened up the ECU, cleaning that as well. Washed all the cables in one form of hydrocarbon based cleaner or another. Ran a toothpick through each of the contacts. Used cotton buds, petrol, white gas, acetone. Boy did I clean up things.

    Had one moment of panic when I could not get the car started then found out I had not connected the injector loom. Oops.

    But when all is said and done I've still one rough running TD5.

    As it isn't oil on my 'so clean you could eat off it' cables the next move will be to measure the resistance on each of the injectors all the way back to the ECU. in the hope there is a faulty cable. Failing that the MAV/MAF is going to get a clean.

    As I do not have a Nanocom is there any other areas I should look into as well?

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    LCS Guest

    Fuel Pump

    Thanks for your reply.

    I have seen the mentioned thread and while I have yet to crawl under with rubber mallet in hand I do hear the pump making pump sounds prior to starting the engine.

    But the pump does represent an interesting area of enquiry. I'll will review the various manuals to see if there is a way I can test, again without a Nanocom, the output of the pump.

    Again, thanks

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    See how it runs with the MAF disconnected..

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    Aaron40. My present thinking is that of the three main systems, fuel, air and ignition (Which is a misnomer for a diesel) the problem is likely to be electrical in origin. Hence my present focus is on the injector loom and the gizmos hanging off it. I have cleaned, peered within and cleaned again the MAV/MAF sensors. While I've yet to measure them I'll keep them connected for the time being.
    Thanks for your input
    LCS

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    Generally takes four attempts.

    Gentle readers

    Current status of my urban panzer. Found a page on an alternate site where the writer had a similar problem but with a twist. The injector loom was replaced and all went well until a bumpy road was traversed. The bumps caused the engine to loose power, running on the wrong number of cylinders. Turns out the wiring loom was rubbing up against something harder than the cables which a bumpy road exposed as an intermittent break in circuit.

    The neat thing about the article is that I got an easy to understand, for me, pin out diagram that showed the cross over at the ECU and Injector loom. So, with multi meter in hand I 'buzzed' each of the circuits. Got continuity across all. Next step, hook up 12vdc/500ma placing the meter in a series circuit and see if I can draw a load. Again all five showed a load but here is the twist. Solenoids 1 to 4 clicked on power up. Solenoid 5, injector 5, stayed silent. Hmmmm

    Next step is to take the rocker cover off again, this will be the fourth time, and buzz injector 5. If it clicks then the problem is in the circuit. If the injector solenoid does not click then it will be back to the drawing board.

    Fingers crossed
    LCS

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    LCS Guest

    Update

    Folks,

    This morning I pulled the truck into my garage. Took the rocker cover off for the fourth time. Removed the loom then applied 12vdc/500ma to each injector solenoid.

    Result - injectors 1 through 4 produced an click. Injector 5 stayed silent. Advanced the engine a few turns to ensure cam settings were not a factor. Performed the same test and received the same result

    Therefore, injector 5 has failed.

    I've a few questions concerning this and would appreciate hearing your thoughts. The motor has 130k on it, still quite young and fresh. There is no shrapnel in the injector well indicating breakage; i checked with a magnet.

    My thinking is that the valve has become fused/stuck into the valve set from either wear/sludge etc. What are the potential causes of this type of failure? Is this failure simply the luck of the draw or is it a known issue.

    My next question is the more fundamental one. Who in the NSW Parramatta area is best suited to fix this type of problem and what is the going rate. My thoughts are one day labour plus parts but what the heck would I know.

    Thanks everyone for your kind support

    LCS

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    schuy1 Guest
    As far as I understand the injectors on a Td5 are quite robust and not prone to failure. Some Td5 defenders I know have had 1 or 2 fail after runing them out of fuel, but that is like anything, if its mechanical it will fail, 1 day,somewhere, somehow . Sorry not know of any mechs in your neck of the woods.

    cheers

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    You sound like you know what your doing, and have a decent mech aptitude. You could get a new or second hand injector and replace it yourself. Pretty easy to get the injectors out. Save yourself some coin. You would just need a dealer/ specialist or someone with a nanocom to program the new injector into the cars computer.

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